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chris92346

Audioholic Intern
So I have a new pair of Maggie 12s. I have notice a sort of tin or brassy sound. Is this common with Maggies or do I have a component that I need to upgrade?
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
It could be placement or simply that they are new and need to break in a few days. No special procedures, just play 'em.

Oh, with what are you powering them? Maggies do like plenty of good, solid, clean watts and their four ohm impedance puts quite a strain on many amps when attempting realistic levels.

Likewise, their interpertation of bass is different than that of a box speaker.

You did start out with MMG's first, didn't you?
 
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chris92346

Audioholic Intern
Actually this is my first hi-fi system. It is powered by a NAD T743. How much of a sound upgrade would having a separate amp give me. Currently I don't turn it up more that about half way up. Would and amp just give me more volume or would be a significant increase in sound quality? Also when it comes to speaker break-in... maybe for your traditional box speakers it dosn't make much difference but with the maggies there is a very noticable break-in period. There was almost no bass to start but now I find I don't even use my sub for music.

Bass is very unique on these. While on the one side you don't feel it in the pit of your stomache, however you do hear all the details of a bass guitar. Also on bass drums you hear a LOT of detail.
 
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markw

Audioholic Overlord
NAD is nice, but even they have their limits. Likkewise, i'm somewhat familiar with maggies and their way of handling bass. I'm also familiar with what a stressed amp on the verge of cbeing overdriven sounds like with maggies. They sound glaring, tinny, harsh and strained.

When I was running my MMG's, my NAD 214 (80wpc@ 8 ohm) power amp was "adequate" but I was using a powered sub, cutting in around 60 hz, which is just about where they cut off.

When I upgraded to the 1.6's, my trusty 214 was woefully inadequate. I needed to upgrade to a Rotel RB-991 (200 wpc @ 8 ohms). I still use a sub but run 'em full range and have the sub start cutting in around 45 - 50 hz or so.

Remember, when an amp reproduces bass, it puts a tremendous strain on the system across the entire frequrency range. By ading more power you won't necessiarially be making it "louder", but you will be able to provide the juice needed to handle the bass peaks and, hopefully, still have enough clean power so the rest of the range won't be degraded, which, IMNSHO, seems to be the current situation.

That receiver would be a better match for more efficient speakers.

I'm of the opinion that your receiver, while excellent in many other respects, simply lacks the juice to do those speakers justice, particularly when trying to do serious bass. Acoustic, folk, chamber, light symphonic (and that's questionable), opera, vocals, and such may be fine at low to moderate volume but you're running out of steam should you try to do a stand-up bass at realistic levels. Don't even think about loud electric bass, deep synth, or organs at satisfying levels.

As a point of interest, remember that doubling the available power will afford you about three db increase in headroom which, in the grand scheme of things, ain't much. And, never, ever confuse momentary "dynamic power" with real "RMS" or "continious" power.
 
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WmAx

Audioholic Samurai
The users here are correct about this type of speaker needing a high power amplifier.

I recommend a Behringer EP1500 if you want high power and relative high quality at low cost. This amplifier will power the speakers with no problems. The amplifier is fan cooled, FYI.


-Chris
 
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gus6464

Audioholic Samurai
The users here are correct about this type of speaker needing a high power amplifier.

I recommend a Behringer EP1500 if you want high power and relative high quality at low cost. This amplifier will power the speakers with no problems. The amplifier is fan cooled, FYI.


-Chris
This place sells Behringer and Crown at very good prices. http://www.abesofmaine.com/

They have the EP2500 for $249 and Crown XLS-202D and 402D for $199 and $299 respectively. But you really cant beat the EP2500 for the price.
 

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