Hp42" plasma& Denon AVR887

[Hstar]

I have a both of the above. I don't have cable yet, still using an external antena hooked to the TV. My question is, can I use the record out on the TV to the reciever AV in to utilze the video converter back to the TV component input? I basically want to run every thing through the amp(DVD,VCR,ETC.) Am I on the right track? Billy

 

[Adam]

That's an interesting question. I don't know, but I'd say give it a try if that's what you want to do. For me, I run all video sources through my receiver except for over-the-air broadcasts. I watch those broadcasts through my TV tuner (while running the audio through my receiver), and I just switch to my TV's video input when I want to watch something else that I have passing through my receiver. I'd be interested to know if your idea works for you.

 

[Hstar]

What I really would like to do is take advantage of the conversion abilities of the amp to upgrade the video quality and also hook everything through a timer so that one button controls all...... Possible? Thanks for your response. Billy

 

[MDS]

I don't know if any TV truly has a 'record out' but it could have video out, if that is what you mean. I'm not familiar with that particular TV but it is highly unlikely that it has component video out (though I certainly could be wrong). Most TVs that do have video out only offer composite or s-video out.

If the TV does have some kind of video out and you get the signal from an antenna connected to the TV's antenna/cable input, then you should be able to send the video out to the receiver and then back to the TV's component video inputs. You'd also have to send the audio to the receiver unless you want to use the TV speakers.

The point is moot if you do get a cable box. The cable from the wall goes directly to the cable box and the audio/video outs of the cable box go to the receiver which can then send the video to the TV.

'Sleep' timers on receivers is something that seems to be going away but even if it doesn't have one you could implement the timer idea using an external timer connected to the wall outlet with the receiver plugged into it.

 

[Hstar]

Ok first off let me thank you for your response. The book ( for the TV )says"connecting a VCR for recording" The illistration shows a video out, L/mono,R, all RCA I believe. I have no clue if that would be record or componnent out. I just think that a signal would be a sgnal. Please correct me if I'm wrong. My idea is to use that signal to go to the amp, Use the video conversion abilities within the amp to possibly upgrade the image. then send thre signal from the Denon back to the TV and have the TV configured to video in (instead of antenea). Does sthat make sense? Also having the audio from the TV to the amp and back. Of course when I go cable/satelite that will all change as you described.
As far as the time goes, Its a stand alone component timer, not the integrated sleep timer in the TV. bascally the time wil control power to all components with one push of a button. (its also a real nice clock for the front room) I don't think that having everything hooked up through a stand alone timer will cause any of the switched components to loose the programable settings. correct me if I'm wrong please. thanks again for your input. Billy

 

[MDS]

OK, If the video out is a single jack that takes an RCA plug, it is composite video (as I had guessed). If the receiver transcodes composite video to component then your plan will work fine.

If you use the L/R audio out jacks to go to the receiver, you will not get Dolby Digital but the receiver can use a matrix decoder like PLII to turn it into 5.1. IF the TV will also pass DD to its digital out (it should if the signal arrived via the cable connected to its cable/antenna input) then you would be able to get DD by using a digital connection from the TV to the receiver.

It doesn't sound to me like the timer device will present a problem, but there is a potential complication. Receivers store their settings in non-volatile flash memory and do not lose the settings if the power cord is connected to the wall outlet. This is because 'off' is really 'standby'. If the timer totally disconnects the power it may lose its settings but probably only if the power remains off for an extended period of time. I've had the power go out for a few hours and the receiver didn't lose any settings so I assume you will be fine with the timer.

 

[Davemcc]

I would imagine that once you choose component in on the TV, it will not output antenna signal. You'd have to select tuner input on the TV for the tuner to send a signal to the receiver and by switching the TV input to component, you are effectively turning off the tuner (i.e. the source going to the receiver).

 

[Hstar]

Davemcc I would imagine that once you choose component in on the TV, it will not output antenna signal. You'd have to select tuner input on the TV for the tuner to send a signal to the receiver and by switching the TV input to component, you are effectively turning off the tuner (i.e. the source going to the receiver).

That could cause a problem I didn't think of that will change when I get a cable hookup. I guess the only way to find out is to try it. Worste case I can just run the audio to the amp for the time being.
In response to MDS, I've had the timer amp hooked up to the timer for some time with no prob with the memory. I;ll have to try it with the TV and see if it looses its settings. Thanks for all your help gentleman. today is the going to be spent trying this. I'll let you kknow how it goes. Billy

 

[MDS]

I would imagine that once you choose component in on the TV, it will not output antenna signal. You'd have to select tuner input on the TV for the tuner to send a signal to the receiver and by switching the TV input to component, you are effectively turning off the tuner (i.e. the source going to the receiver).

I didn't even think about that. I think you are correct and the idea of sending the video out to the receiver and back into the TV on component probably wouldn't work after all.

 

[no. 5]

I would imagine that once you choose component in on the TV, it will not output antenna signal. You'd have to select tuner input on the TV for the tuner to send a signal to the receiver and by switching the TV input to component, you are effectively turning off the tuner (i.e. the source going to the receiver).

I agree with that, as far as I know, any TV will only send out what is coming in through the input that is selected; in other words, it will only send out what is on the screen.

My idea is to use that signal to go to the amp, Use the video conversion abilities within the amp to possibly upgrade the image. then send thre signal from the Denon back to the TV and have the TV configured to video in (instead of antenea).

Personally I would advise against that, for two reasons; first, the scalar and de-interlacing on your TV are most likely very good, possibly already better then the receiver's.
Second, having the video signal going through more equipment and connections introduces the possibility of negating any possible gains.