Dolby Digital TrueHD, etc

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trnqk7

Full Audioholic
Does anyone know if having a HDDVD or BD player and a disc with TrueHD surround encoding will allow you to listen to that lossless encoding w/o having HDMI 1.3 on your receiver? I have a Denon 2807 that I just purchased a couple months ago and don't want to replace it any time soon. Not quite ready to jump into the HDDVD/BD thing yet either, but this is a concern that would cause me to hold back even longer.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Lossless can be handled by 1.1 and up I believe.
 
Tom Andry

Tom Andry

Speaker of the House
This should be required viewing for every single member of this forum.
 
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trnqk7

Full Audioholic
Thanks for the info. I would then just have to set the AVR to PCM to get the correct audio stream? Or would it automatically select this?
 
GlocksRock

GlocksRock

Audioholic Spartan
Thanks for the info. I would then just have to set the AVR to PCM to get the correct audio stream? Or would it automatically select this?
You would set the player to output PCM, the receiver just handles whatever it's given.
 
solomr2

solomr2

Full Audioholic
It sounds to me like your player with Dolby Digital TrueHD circuitry should be able to automatically output uncompressed PCM over analog or digital connections, including HDMI 1.1 or higher. Your AVR just plays the PCM bitstream and doesn't perform any of the de-encoding. From the Eggers interview though, it sounded like future players will be equipped with an option to bypass the "de-encoding" process and send the TrueHD signal directly to your AVR. In that case your AVR would need to be equipped with TrueHD circuitry, but I would think you would still have the option of analog or digital interfaces (including HDMI 1.1, 1.2 or 1.3).

In an article I read over the weekend, however, this is apparently not the case with DTS-HD Master Audio. This bit-for-bit lossless format apparently produces a bitstream of 24Mbps, which will necessitate the higher capacity of HDMI 1.3.

So, if I had it my way I would let the player do the task of sorting out the bits and feeding the AVR an uncompressed and clean signal. The less processing going on in the AVR the better, and the less often you will need to upgrade the AVR. However, your player will likely need to be replaced every 3-5 years (or less).
 
MACCA350

MACCA350

Audioholic Chief
It seems we have numerous threads on the same topic, so I'll just paste the same info here to:
According to an article (interview) I read over the weekend, it appears the DTS-HD Master Audio is a bit-for-bit lossless format, and it outputs a signal of 24Mbps.
Yes, Dolby TrueHD is also a lossless bit-for-bit identical to the studio master once they are decoded.

The article stated (right or wrong) that HDMI 1.3 is required.
What they don't state is that it will only work for 'basic' encoded discs.

cheers:)
 
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