JTR Kallos 465 Review: On-Wall Speakers w 123dB SPL Output?!

S

shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
900x450c.jpg
JTR Speakers are well-known in the home theater and audio enthusiast market, although not as lifestyle products that are conveniently-sized for easy placement. JTR speakers are renowned for wide dynamics, and wide dynamic range speakers typically need a large size since it is easier for larger diameter drivers to move a lot of air. JTR’s reputation for large, wide dynamic range speakers is why it came as a surprise when they announced a line of on-wall speakers called the ‘Kallos’ series, which are designed not to intrude upon the user’s space. This style of speaker would seemingly be at odds with JTR’s design philosophy. However, taking a closer look at these new speakers, they seem to be making on-wall speakers conform more to their design philosophy than vice versa. So it was with great interest that I was offered the opportunity to review some of the new Kallos series in the form of the Kallos 465 on-wall speakers. While they had an on-wall form factor, they also looked to have the firepower one would expect from JTR. So then let’s dig in to see how a famously high-powered loudspeaker manufacturer like JTR handles a lifestyle loudspeaker that usually trades a lot of performance in favor of a lot of convenience…

READ: JTR Kallos 465 On-Wall Loudspeaker Review
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
JTR Speakers are well-known in the home theater and audio enthusiast market, although not as lifestyle products that are conveniently-sized for easy placement. JTR speakers are renowned for wide dynamics, and wide dynamic range speakers typically need a large size since it is easier for larger diameter drivers to move a lot of air. JTR’s reputation for large, wide dynamic range speakers is why it came as a surprise when they announced a line of on-wall speakers called the ‘Kallos’ series, which are designed not to intrude upon the user’s space. This style of speaker would seemingly be at odds with JTR’s design philosophy. However, taking a closer look at these new speakers, they seem to be making on-wall speakers conform more to their design philosophy than vice versa. So it was with great interest that I was offered the opportunity to review some of the new Kallos series in the form of the Kallos 465 on-wall speakers. While they had an on-wall form factor, they also looked to have the firepower one would expect from JTR. So then let’s dig in to see how a famously high-powered loudspeaker manufacturer like JTR handles a lifestyle loudspeaker that usually trades a lot of performance in favor of a lot of convenience…

READ: JTR Kallos 465 On-Wall Loudspeaker Review
Clearly there is a demand for speakers that don't take up floor space. This is a partial solution as the subs will.

This is an ABR design rolling off as expected starting at 100 Hz or thereabouts. It probably will be lower on the wall mounting.

The problem at 3 KHz I doubt you will hear, and is likely a cancellation reflection in the horn bell. A dip is much less noticeable than even a small peak.

What I have noticed from my experience with my in wall system, is that wall reflections are a big problem, especially with three speakers.

What I have found is that crossing over at 150 Hz really helps, especially with male speech.

So I would recommend two decent subs under each left and right speaker, and cross at 150 Hz. This is only half an octave above the roll off point of those speakers anyway.

The only issue is, that this defeats the "clear of clutter" floor plan.

What is really required is a good sub that can be mounted in wall with standard stud spacing. Unfortunately that is a very "tall order."

My sub is in wall but that was new construction. Having the sub driver crossed at 150 Hz really helped the reflections issue.

That system is a really good system, and not just good for an in wall. It is very listenable on a wide range of program. So in wall/on wall systems definitely have a place. The problem is that it introduces a lot of design problems, that free standing speakers don't have.

In living spaces free standing speakers and subs, are a big issue, and it is understandable. I personally don't think the industry has devoted enough time, and money to these systems. They remain OK but with a bunch of caveats and in the end not good enough for critical listening.
 
P

paulgyro

Junior Audioholic
I've heard these at a friends house locally. They sound amazing and can get crazy loud!
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
I've heard these at a friends house locally. They sound amazing and can get crazy loud!
Where they used with a sub or two? Their bass roll off seems too high and steep to create a decent impression without a sub or two. Playing crazy loud is not in any way a great endorsement.
 
P

paulgyro

Junior Audioholic
Where they used with a sub or two? Their bass roll off seems too high and steep to create a decent impression without a sub or two. Playing crazy loud is not in any way a great endorsement.
Yes, with a multiple sub system on a Trinnov. When I say loud, I mean loud and clean. Epic dynamics where you continue to hear every detail where other speakers start falling apart.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Yes, with a multiple sub system on a Trinnov. When I say loud, I mean loud and clean. Epic dynamics where you continue to hear every detail where other speakers start falling apart.
That is what I suspected. The problem is that rather defeats the floor space saving and decluttering, which is the basic intent of wall mounted and in wall speakers. To really get traction the speaker system has to take zero floor space, if not it looses its basic reason for existing.
 
ski2xblack

ski2xblack

Audioholic Samurai
Well, they may conflict with the decluttering goal of on-wall speakers, but it appears that JTR got many of the critical speaker design goals nailed. That polar plot looks just superb, suggesting quite room-friendly speakers, and with legit high output capability? Sign me up!
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Well, they may conflict with the decluttering goal of on-wall speakers, but it appears that JTR got many of the critical speaker design goals nailed. That polar plot looks just superb, suggesting quite room-friendly speakers, and with legit high output capability? Sign me up!
The performance is the easy part, but as far as the goal of audio gear not adding to clutter it is only "half the loaf!"

From discussions I have had this is a big issue and one of the major reasons sound bars are the option for the vast majority.

It is easy to achieve with new construction, but with what is available now, there is no good total in wall solution, which is what is required. This will be tough to achieve without a degree of rmodelling.

I mention this as it is my total in wall system that creates the most visitor interest and the one most would like to have. It surrenders no SQ for being totally in wall.

Done well this could become a new line of work for skilled AV installers and builders, both new construction and remodel.
 
P

paulgyro

Junior Audioholic
That is what I suspected. The problem is that rather defeats the floor space saving and decluttering, which is the basic intent of wall mounted and in wall speakers. To really get traction the speaker system has to take zero floor space, if not it looses its basic reason for existing.
There still is floor space savings with them being on wall, plus you can place them optimally while throwing the subwoofers in the corner and finally tuning with the Trinnov. Still a win vs bookshelves on stand or floor standers.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
There still is floor space savings with them being on wall, plus you can place them optimally while throwing the subwoofers in the corner and finally tuning with the Trinnov. Still a win vs bookshelves on stand or floor standers.
That will still not generally achieve WAF. My wife wanted a good system in our great room and gave strict instructions not to have anything on the floor. Frankly there would be absolutely no place to put subs or any floor standing equipment in the space without ruining it. The room is only suitable for 2.1 or 3.1 as there is no place to put other speakers. Trust me, this is a common problem, and the industry refuses to address the problem, with massive loss of sales. Open plan architecture is here to stay, and the AV industry refuses to recognize that fact of life.







Powered by 1000 watts and is a high spl. system with a very potent transmission line sub.

So, I met my wife's specification, and she loves it, and calls it her system.
 
Last edited:

Latest posts

newsletter

  • RBHsound.com
  • BlueJeansCable.com
  • SVS Sound Subwoofers
  • Experience the Martin Logan Montis
Top