OPPO 105D NO analog out stereo or headphone sound

[TLS Guy]

How is it I’m the one who gets reported for name calling around this joint?

Older Oppo players had issues with newer HDCP spec TVs. Oppo put out a firmware update at one point to deal with the issue. I’d call the color magenta myself.

With some other older disc players, turning off Deep Color in the TV HDMI port would fix the issue. Setting AVP/AVR ports to 4K Standard helped with some issues as well. Results varied of course.

I'm sticking with Mauve, but won't argue with Magenta.

As far as I know the Oppo player had all updates. I hardly ever play video discs on it, it is largely used as a CD player.

I mainly use that family room system in the winter as it has a nice fireplace. We mainly use that family room for watching TV now and again, but I use it mainly for music only and mainly in the winter. It has a really nice turntable. It is a Thorens TD 125 Mk II. I paid very little money for it, as I bought it not working and restored it. I had to find an SME series III arm to complement a Shure V15 xmr. So, it makes a really nice rig for playing LPs in the cold winter months. My wife has the room monopolized Tuesday afternoons for her bridge group.

We have had two frost already, so hibernation will commence soon!

 

[lovinthehd]

You are an ignorant little twot. Mauve

No, the problem with the Oppo was manifest as soon as we started to test out the new AV room in 2019.

The Oppo player had worked fine with the Panny plasma at the lake. it would not work with the LG OLED which was new in the AV room. My eldest son who is very experienced in all kinds of software had been helping with the installation. The Oppo was totally incompatible with the HDMI version on the LG TV. we spent ages on this.

So the Oppo went into the family room that has the smaller Panny plasma that was in Eagan.

The PQ is inferior though, to the Panny disc player that replaced it. As far as I am concerned those OPPOs were way overhyped.

You need to stop running off at your mouth by the way.

I should report you, you officious old twat. I did see this https://forums.audioholics.com/forums/threads/older-oppo-players-not-compatible-with-current-equipment-despite-update.116383/ but your conclusions as usual are still suspect.

 

[Rossco]

Hey guys chill out, put a good song on...drift away.

 

[Rossco]

I have the 105 without the D but their audio parts are identical, so I know for a fact while it's analog outputs are really good, it is no better than those <=US$200 desktop dacs.

To me, you can do well by selling the 105D as it, unless you still want to use it to play discs, and just grab one of those Topping, or SMSL DACs for less than US$200.

If you really want to use balanced output then you will have to pay at least 10% more for the otherwise the same DAC by those two companies I mentioned.

Here's a couple of examples:

For $229, balanced
Amazon.com: TOPPING D50 III Desktop HiFi DAC & Preamplifier, Dual ES9039Q2M, Bluetooth 5.1, Hi-Res Audio, DSD512/PCM768kHz Support, RCA/TRS Outputs, Includes 12V Trigger and Remote Control (Black) : Electronics

For $199, balanced
Amazon.com: TOPPING E50 Hi-Res Audio DAC – DSD512 PCM768kHz, USB/Optical/Coaxial Digital Inputs, MQA Full Decode, Ultra-Low Jitter, Balanced TRS + RCA Output, 5V Powered (E50-Black) : Electronics

For $199, balanced, use flagship latest ESS DAC IC, but still the Q2M version, with trigger and 10 band PEQ
Amazon.com: TOPPING DX5 II Hi-Res DAC & Headphone Amp Combo – Dual ES9039Q2M, X-Hybrid Amp, 10-Band PEQ, LDAC Bluetooth 5.1, 4.4mm Balanced & 6.35mm Headphone Output, Preamp Mode, 12V Trigger (Silver) : Electronics

For $349, this one use the best AKM DAC IC:
Amazon.com: TOPPING E70 Velvet - High-Performance DAC with AK4499EX, Bluetooth 5.1 LDAC, Ultra-Low THD+N, Selectable Output Levels, USB Support DSD512 & PCM768kHz, Coaxial/Optical Inputs (Silver) : Electronics

For $599, one with one of the best ESS DAC IC one can get:
Amazon.com: Topping D70 PRO Sabre DAC ES9039SPRO XU316 Bluetooth 5.1 LDAC Aptx-Adaptive HiFi Decoder (Silver) : Electronics

The unbalanced versions will obviously cost less.

Any of the examples I listed above will outperform the Oppo by a significant margin (on paper, based on specs and measurements), and they can play just about any digital files you can obtain at the moment, except of course, they don't play discs. If you do play discs, then just keep the Oppo too and and do it without using analog outputs, or rip your favorite discs with you PC. Actually, for discs, I just can see a reason for using the Oppo's analog output, I mean in terms of sound quality.

You can buy the analog board and do your own repair but there is no guarantee that everything else will be fine, or send it to a reputable repair shop, and be prepared to pay much more than the cost of a desktop DAC.

I like balanced connection too, but they offer absolutely no sonic advantage, not even in theory, unless you have to use lengthy interconnects and/or for some reasons you wiring layout cannot avoid picking up noise.

All good mate. Oppo digital Australia still has 105d audio control boards. I'm just going to buy one and replace it myself, only screws and ribbon connectors. 300$ for part only, ouch

 

[TLS Guy]

All good mate. Oppo digital Australia still has 105d audio control boards. I'm just going to buy one and replace it myself, only screws and ribbon connectors. 300$ for part only, ouch

It is your lucky day, and your optimal solution to restore that unit original performance. Let us know how it turns out. I knew those parts were costly.

 

[j_garcia]

All good mate. Oppo digital Australia still has 105d audio control boards. I'm just going to buy one and replace it myself, only screws and ribbon connectors. 300$ for part only, ouch

No issues with my 105 still, but I use it a lot less than the 205 because it is in the main rig as the 105 doesn't do 4K.

 

[Rossco]

It is your lucky day, and your optimal solution to restore that unit original performance. Let us know how it turns out. I knew those parts were costly.

Just our of curiosity before I delve into this....the audio control board....is it only connect via screws and ribbon cables i.e I'm pretty good with electronics so I think I m competent if that's the case. I did open it up and looks straight forward but I just want to be sure.

 

[Rossco]

I don't like to whinge but I've had like 3 things fail all within a couple of months,

Guys save yourself trouble ....buy new if you can or at least test very methodically before buying expensive used gear.

Especially if you don't like in a major city .

 

[TLS Guy]

I don't like to whinge but I've had like 3 things fail all within a couple of months,

Guys save yourself trouble ....buy new if you can or at least test very methodically before buying expensive used gear.

Especially if you don't like in a major city .

Anything can go wrong. The last two units to fail, I bought new. An AVP five years old could not be fixed due to no parts, and its replacement failed in three months, and I don't have it back yet after five months.

I do buy used gear, but I generally make sure it is something I know, and feel competent to service. I have quite a bit of test gear. I tend to stick with gear I know well as far as I can. In addition I try and stick with gear that has individuals that will service it, should I get stumped.

I also keep gear long. I have gear in my rig, and in use, going back 60 years plus. A few of my items I design and build from scratch. So I have no hard and fast rules, except one. My amplifiers will be Quads and I have a lot of them. I have 10 Quad 909s and three Quad 405-2s in daily use. There are no new amps I would rather have, not one. So it all depends.

 

[Rossco]

I have the 105 without the D but their audio parts are identical, so I know for a fact while it's analog outputs are really good, it is no better than those <=US$200 desktop dacs.

To me, you can do well by selling the 105D as it, unless you still want to use it to play discs, and just grab one of those Topping, or SMSL DACs for less than US$200.

If you really want to use balanced output then you will have to pay at least 10% more for the otherwise the same DAC by those two companies I mentioned.

Here's a couple of examples:

For $229, balanced
Amazon.com: TOPPING D50 III Desktop HiFi DAC & Preamplifier, Dual ES9039Q2M, Bluetooth 5.1, Hi-Res Audio, DSD512/PCM768kHz Support, RCA/TRS Outputs, Includes 12V Trigger and Remote Control (Black) : Electronics

For $199, balanced
Amazon.com: TOPPING E50 Hi-Res Audio DAC – DSD512 PCM768kHz, USB/Optical/Coaxial Digital Inputs, MQA Full Decode, Ultra-Low Jitter, Balanced TRS + RCA Output, 5V Powered (E50-Black) : Electronics

For $199, balanced, use flagship latest ESS DAC IC, but still the Q2M version, with trigger and 10 band PEQ
Amazon.com: TOPPING DX5 II Hi-Res DAC & Headphone Amp Combo – Dual ES9039Q2M, X-Hybrid Amp, 10-Band PEQ, LDAC Bluetooth 5.1, 4.4mm Balanced & 6.35mm Headphone Output, Preamp Mode, 12V Trigger (Silver) : Electronics

For $349, this one use the best AKM DAC IC:
Amazon.com: TOPPING E70 Velvet - High-Performance DAC with AK4499EX, Bluetooth 5.1 LDAC, Ultra-Low THD+N, Selectable Output Levels, USB Support DSD512 & PCM768kHz, Coaxial/Optical Inputs (Silver) : Electronics

For $599, one with one of the best ESS DAC IC one can get:
Amazon.com: Topping D70 PRO Sabre DAC ES9039SPRO XU316 Bluetooth 5.1 LDAC Aptx-Adaptive HiFi Decoder (Silver) : Electronics

The unbalanced versions will obviously cost less.

Any of the examples I listed above will outperform the Oppo by a significant margin (on paper, based on specs and measurements), and they can play just about any digital files you can obtain at the moment, except of course, they don't play discs. If you do play discs, then just keep the Oppo too and and do it without using analog outputs, or rip your favorite discs with you PC. Actually, for discs, I just can see a reason for using the Oppo's analog output, I mean in terms of sound quality.

You can buy the analog board and do your own repair but there is no guarantee that everything else will be fine, or send it to a reputable repair shop, and be prepared to pay much more than the cost of a desktop DAC.

I like balanced connection too, but they offer absolutely no sonic advantage, not even in theory, unless you have to use lengthy interconnects and/or for some reasons you wiring layout cannot avoid picking up noise.

More likely user error with you. Mauve?

Gave me a bit to consider so I appreciate it guys.

And yes I did try all the common and uncommon fault finding I did do a degree in audio so I do have a decent baseline of knowledge.

Only wanted to salvage it because I have a library of 3.2k cd's and many SACD some of which are really hard to find as well as Blu ray.

But you guys game me some good options and things to consider. The RME adu 2 DAC or benchmark DAC 3 is on my radar.

 

[Rossco]

Anything can go wrong. The last two units to fail, I bought new. An AVP five years old could not be fixed due to no parts, and its replacement failed in three months, and I don't have it back yet after five months.

I do buy used gear, but I generally make sure it is something I know, and feel competent to service. I have quite a bit of test gear. I tend to stick with gear I know well as far as I can. In addition I try and stick with gear that has individuals that will service it, should I get stumped.

I also keep gear long. I have gear in my rig, and in use, going back 60 years plus. A few of my items I design and build from scratch. So I have no hard and fast rules, except one. My amplifiers will be Quads and I have a lot of them. I have 10 Quad 909s and three Quad 405-2s in daily use. There are no new amps I would rather have, not one. So it all depends.

You touched on some good points. I feel like people should really, inspect and demo a unit before buying used. I love in a small city, rare to find anything good here lol.

I thought oppo were really good and built well. My Denon avr is from 2006 and still works flawlessly.

If I was rich or living in a capitsl city my approach to audio would be very different. I done a degree in a audio and have a lot of experience with tubes but stuff like DACs and fine surface mount soldering are beyond me, cleaning and servicing is fine.

The things we do for good sound, it's never ending

 

[Rossco]

I have the 105 without the D but their audio parts are identical, so I know for a fact while it's analog outputs are really good, it is no better than those <=US$200 desktop dacs.

To me, you can do well by selling the 105D as it, unless you still want to use it to play discs, and just grab one of those Topping, or SMSL DACs for less than US$200.

If you really want to use balanced output then you will have to pay at least 10% more for the otherwise the same DAC by those two companies I mentioned.

Here's a couple of examples:

For $229, balanced
Amazon.com: TOPPING D50 III Desktop HiFi DAC & Preamplifier, Dual ES9039Q2M, Bluetooth 5.1, Hi-Res Audio, DSD512/PCM768kHz Support, RCA/TRS Outputs, Includes 12V Trigger and Remote Control (Black) : Electronics

For $199, balanced
Amazon.com: TOPPING E50 Hi-Res Audio DAC – DSD512 PCM768kHz, USB/Optical/Coaxial Digital Inputs, MQA Full Decode, Ultra-Low Jitter, Balanced TRS + RCA Output, 5V Powered (E50-Black) : Electronics

For $199, balanced, use flagship latest ESS DAC IC, but still the Q2M version, with trigger and 10 band PEQ
Amazon.com: TOPPING DX5 II Hi-Res DAC & Headphone Amp Combo – Dual ES9039Q2M, X-Hybrid Amp, 10-Band PEQ, LDAC Bluetooth 5.1, 4.4mm Balanced & 6.35mm Headphone Output, Preamp Mode, 12V Trigger (Silver) : Electronics

For $349, this one use the best AKM DAC IC:
Amazon.com: TOPPING E70 Velvet - High-Performance DAC with AK4499EX, Bluetooth 5.1 LDAC, Ultra-Low THD+N, Selectable Output Levels, USB Support DSD512 & PCM768kHz, Coaxial/Optical Inputs (Silver) : Electronics

For $599, one with one of the best ESS DAC IC one can get:
Amazon.com: Topping D70 PRO Sabre DAC ES9039SPRO XU316 Bluetooth 5.1 LDAC Aptx-Adaptive HiFi Decoder (Silver) : Electronics

The unbalanced versions will obviously cost less.

Any of the examples I listed above will outperform the Oppo by a significant margin (on paper, based on specs and measurements), and they can play just about any digital files you can obtain at the moment, except of course, they don't play discs. If you do play discs, then just keep the Oppo too and and do it without using analog outputs, or rip your favorite discs with you PC. Actually, for discs, I just can see a reason for using the Oppo's analog output, I mean in terms of sound quality.

You can buy the analog board and do your own repair but there is no guarantee that everything else will be fine, or send it to a reputable repair shop, and be prepared to pay much more than the cost of a desktop DAC.

I like balanced connection too, but they offer absolutely no sonic advantage, not even in theory, unless you have to use lengthy interconnects and/or for some reasons you wiring layout cannot avoid picking up noise.

I should mention here in Australia everything is EXPENSIVE, maybe your in the US so a 200 USD item is probably 600 here and oppon105najdn205 sell for 1500-2000.

Surprised that other DACs sound as good. The opps is pretty nice obviously it could be better but I have a MASSIVE library or cd, SACD and Blu ray some that ware hard to get so universal disc Ayer alawysd has a use here, until I rip my library and encode with mark Levinson's " Daniel hertz masterclass" software

 

[Rossco]

It is your lucky day, and your optimal solution to restore that unit original performance. Let us know how it turns out. I knew those parts were costly.

Hate to hound people here but (audiophile on major budget lol)..is buying an audio control board ok,? I've opened up the Oppo, it's clean as a whistle. Worth the time and effort repairing everyone's got different views.

Love my disc library so would you think it's an ok idea to buy the board or be done and move on.

 

[PENG]

Surprised that other DACs sound as good. The opps is pretty nice obviously it could be better but I have a MASSIVE library or cd, SACD and Blu ray some that ware hard to get so universal disc Ayer alawysd has a use here, until I rip my library and encode with mark Levinson's " Daniel hertz masterclass" software

Me too, that's why I won't sell my 105, but I did finally sell my Denon DVD-3910 that I have been keeping for many years just as back up. My backup now is the Sony 4K BDP that at least I can use to play SACD.

The nice thing about the Oppo, and my old Denon is that they also play my DVD-A and HDCD discs.

I still use external desktop dacs with my stereo preamps/amps via analog outputs for my digital files that I have been accumulating slowing in recent years, the Oppo can't that for me as some of those files are of >24b/192 kHz and >DSD 256, that even your 105 D cannot play, the 205 can play some of those, wish I grabbed one when it was available.

 

[Rossco]

Go

Me too, that's why I won't sell my 105, but I did finally sell my Denon DVD-3910 that I have been keeping for many years just as back up. My backup now is the Sony 4K BDP that at least I can use to play SACD.

The nice thing about the Oppo, and my old Denon is that they also play my DVD-A and HDCD discs.

I still use external desktop dacs with my stereo preamps/amps via analog outputs for my digital files that I have been accumulating slowing in recent years, the Oppo can't that for me as some of those files are of >24b/192 kHz and >DSD 256, that even your 105 D cannot play, the 205 can play some of those, wish I grabbed one when it was available.

d some one else out there get it's, what a relief. Thought I was the only one left that listens to heaps of DVD A, Blu ray audio CDs hdcd etc.

I have a HDCD from Chet Atkins and Tommy Emmanuel that blows the absolute dust off many high resolution albums these days.

The also I was going to upgrade the digital audio word clockthe

Me too, that's why I won't sell my 105, but I did finally sell my Denon DVD-3910 that I have been keeping for many years just as back up. My backup now is the Sony 4K BDP that at least I can use to play SACD.

The nice thing about the Oppo, and my old Denon is that they also play my DVD-A and HDCD discs.

I still use external desktop dacs with my stereo preamps/amps via analog outputs for my digital files that I have been accumulating slowing in recent years, the Oppo can't that for me as some of those files are of >24b/192 kHz and >DSD 256, that even your 105 D cannot play, the 205 can play some of those, wish I grabbed one when it was available.

There's a 205 available here for 1000 aud (650) us do you think It would be a good score. I'm new to the whole Oppo thing, dually the go for 1500, 2000 here but reliability and sound quality is what I'm really interested in.

 

[Trebdp83]

I had some denon players with multichannel analog outputs and some denon receivers with 7.1 EXT IN. I enjoyed them but wiring was a bit much as I also had devices connected via component cables. Lots of spaghetti back there. Then, I picked up an Oppo BDP-83 and it cleaned things up with the HDMI connection.

Time marches on and I began to look for new components on a budget as technology advances quickly and I like playing with new devices. I purchased a Sony UBP-X800 for 4K blu-ray discs and then a Sony UBP-X800M2 for Dolby Vision support. They both support DVD-Audio and SACD so I can still enjoy those discs. I still have the Oppo with its original accessories and box. It is the only disc player I ever purchased that came with a tote bag.

 

[TLS Guy]

Hate to hound people here but (audiophile on major budget lol)..is buying an audio control board ok,? I've opened up the Oppo, it's clean as a whistle. Worth the time and effort repairing everyone's got different views.

Love my disc library so would you think it's an ok idea to buy the board or be done and move on.

Modern boards with ICs are very vulnerable to static discharges and these can destroy your gear.

So, before you open the Oppo, make sure it is grounded and ground yourself with a grounding strap throughout the repair.