Wireless Subwoofer Connections

kurtkrum

kurtkrum

Junior Audioholic
Getting ready to splurge on a new Denon AVR (3800H or 4800H) - one of the things I want to do is to use my front speakers full range and to move my subs farther back in the room so I have multiple points of bass to even things out.

Question: Will the AVR be able to compensate for the latency that comes from using a wireless subwoofer connection? Are there any sonic drawback to using a wireless system?

Thanks in advance - this community has always been so helpful.
 
isolar8001

isolar8001

Audioholic Field Marshall
Getting ready to splurge on a new Denon AVR (3800H or 4800H) - one of the things I want to do is to use my front speakers full range and to move my subs farther back in the room so I have multiple points of bass to even things out.

Question: Will the AVR be able to compensate for the latency that comes from using a wireless subwoofer connection? Are there any sonic drawback to using a wireless system?

Thanks in advance - this community has always been so helpful.
Never heard of this being an issue when using the designated wireless adaptor that sells for your particular subwoofer. They are designed to work in tandem with the subs particular amp.

You haven't listed what your subs are and if they have a wireless option.
 
M

Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
Getting ready to splurge on a new Denon AVR (3800H or 4800H) - one of the things I want to do is to use my front speakers full range and to move my subs farther back in the room so I have multiple points of bass to even things out.

Question: Will the AVR be able to compensate for the latency that comes from using a wireless subwoofer connection? Are there any sonic drawback to using a wireless system?

Thanks in advance - this community has always been so helpful.
I have a pair of SVS subs that are connected with the SVS wireless Soundpath adapters. I have not noticed any issues with delay. Having said that, I use my system for HT and music might be a different story.

Over on ASR, Amir gave the SVS wireless system a relatively poor review. I have not noticed any sound quality (distortion) issues in my system, but I'm not sure I'd notice if an explosion or other LFE in a movie was distorted. Amir gave the REL wireless system a better review, but that was back in 2019 and I have no idea if the REL system has changed, if there are better wireless systems, etc.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Getting ready to splurge on a new Denon AVR (3800H or 4800H) - one of the things I want to do is to use my front speakers full range and to move my subs farther back in the room so I have multiple points of bass to even things out.

Question: Will the AVR be able to compensate for the latency that comes from using a wireless subwoofer connection? Are there any sonic drawback to using a wireless system?

Thanks in advance - this community has always been so helpful.
The first question is: - Are you sure your front speakers can tolerate being run full range in an AV environment? I would say most probably can't.

The next point is that running your speakers full range will increase power demands on your receiver, which well reduce its longevity.

Just because you move the subs does not mean you have to run your fronts full range. There are darn few centers that will tolerate that for a start, unless they have very robust woofers.

Don't assume that not having the subs in the front will be an improvement it is even chance whether it will be worse. So if you do that you will need to get data. Picking a sub position out of the back of your neck is not likely to bring you the results you are looking for.
 
kurtkrum

kurtkrum

Junior Audioholic
I have paradigm premier 800F front speakers. I have two SVS PB 1000 subs. After I nail down placement issues to even out bass, I was going to get an ATI power amp for the LCR channels.

Right now the right sub is towards the back of the room down the right wall. In the front right corner I was getting so much bass augmentation that things were super boomy. The left sub is in the front left corner. I was going to move that back and use the front L+R channels full range so I would have 4 points of bass.

I am 75% music and 25% movies/TV.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
I have paradigm premier 800F front speakers. I have two SVS PB 1000 subs. After I nail down placement issues to even out bass, I was going to get an ATI power amp for the LCR channels.

Right now the right sub is towards the back of the room down the right wall. In the front right corner I was getting so much bass augmentation that things were super boomy. The left sub is in the front left corner. I was going to move that back and use the front L+R channels full range so I would have 4 points of bass.

I am 75% music and 25% movies/TV.
That is just guess work, chances are even whether it makes it better or worse.

Those 800Fs have two 6.5" woofers so probably would tolerate being run full range. However the drivers will be rapidly decoupling from the box below 30 Hz, and that can be damaging in the HT environment.
The F3 is 43Hz. They are ported enclosure so roll off 24 db. per octave below 45 Hz. So they will be 27 db. down by 20 Hz, and 15 db. down around 30 Hz. So probably best to crossover at around 60 Hz if that is an option. That likely will give you the smoothest transition.

With those speakers a power amp is a good idea.

I would use cable to connect the subs, and not Wi-Fi.

What is your center speaker?
 
kurtkrum

kurtkrum

Junior Audioholic
Thanks for the pointers! My center is the matching large paradigm 600C.

I am probably upgrading to svs sb 3000 in the coming months after I do an external amp.

Is your recommendation on not doing wireless based on sound quality?
 

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