What Makes a Good Audiophile YouTube.com Video?

[FutureAudiophile.com]

Do you watch youtube.com videos on audiophile topics?

We are about to start doing them at FutureAudiophile.com

What elements do you like about videos?
How do they compare to written reviews in your eyes?
How long is the right length for a video?

Anything else that you like or dislike about audiophile videos?

I want to do these right out of the gate.

Jerry Del Colliano

 

[Mikado463]

Truthfully, I enjoy watching Chickanic more so........

Chickanic

chickanic.com

As for useful AV videos, I think Gene and crew do a good job.

 

[eljr]

Do you watch youtube.com videos on audiophile topics?

No

 

[Golfx]

You need bench measurements for electronics and CEA outdoor data or Klippel data for speakers to back up your observations and recommendations. Without the math it is just an opinion. And I will not watch you.

 

[Mikado463]

I agree with Golf, there's this clown over on a couple of the other forums, goes by 'Michaels Minute' on one and I forget his handle on the other, regardless, he has a YouTube gig and it's nothing more than blathering dialogue. Quite like alot of the reviews in TAS......

The problem with so many subjective reviews is the author is filling space. But, remember this, we are now in a time of less and less brick & mortar audio salons to go to, listen and form our own opinions(while being subjectively influenced) thus the internet has taken on that new role.

 

[highfigh]

Do you watch youtube.com videos on audiophile topics?

We are about to start doing them at FutureAudiophile.com

What elements do you like about videos?
How do they compare to written reviews in your eyes?
How long is the right length for a video?

Anything else that you like or dislike about audiophile videos?

I want to do these right out of the gate.

Jerry Del Colliano

One thing that needs to stop- using a freaking smart phone to record, as a way to show how good speakers sound. Seriously? THIS is where recording technology has gone?

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

One thing that needs to stop- using a freaking smart phone to record, as a way to show how good speakers sound. Seriously? THIS is where recording technology has gone?

Ok, So assuming he will switch to the world's best most expensive microphone which can hear mouse farts - would that improve the experience of us hearing his speakers by watching a YT video while listening on entirely different speakers? (I am willing to ignore the lossy audio compression issues here)

 

[gene]

Do you watch youtube.com videos on audiophile topics?

We are about to start doing them at FutureAudiophile.com

What elements do you like about videos?
How do they compare to written reviews in your eyes?
How long is the right length for a video?

Anything else that you like or dislike about audiophile videos?

I want to do these right out of the gate.

Jerry Del Colliano

You gotta have Rizz Jerry. At least that's what my kids say

 

[gene]

You need bench measurements for electronics and CEA outdoor data or Klippel data for speakers to back up your observations and recommendations. Without the math it is just an opinion. And I will not watch you.

That's challenging for most and tbh, to capture a general audience, they don't really care for all the technical stuff. Just look at Andrew Robinson videos. He has the highest views and the least technical presentations. I admire his production quality and ability to grow his channel.

 

[3db]

That's challenging for most and tbh, to capture a general audience, they don't really care for all the technical stuff. Just look at Andrew Robinson videos. He has the highest views and the least technical presentations. I admire his production quality and ability to grow his channel.

Why do you admire that Gene when your team works hard to provide objective reviews with data? Isnt Andrew just spouting off opinions and subjective fluff? Im confused.

 

[highfigh]

Ok, So assuming he will switch to the world's best most expensive microphone which can hear mouse farts - would that improve the experience of us hearing his speakers by watching a YT video while listening on entirely different speakers? (I am willing to ignore the lossy audio compression issues here)

For fifty bucks, someone can buy a used decent mic, so it can be placed closer to the speakers in order to record a much better representation of the sound. Dynamic mics have a phenomenon called 'proximity effect'- you may be familiar with that and you would know that the lower frequencies suck when that mic isn't close to the source.

Why would you jump to "...assuming he will switch to the world's best most expensive microphone which can hear mouse farts..." Yeah, it would make a big improvement, even using our own speakers.

I don't want to hear the room, I want to hear the speakers. Close mic placement doesn't record much of the room sound.

 

[highfigh]

You gotta have Rizz Jerry. At least that's what my kids say

Your kids are Frank Zappa fans?

 

[Trell]

Ok, So assuming he will switch to the world's best most expensive microphone which can hear mouse farts - would that improve the experience of us hearing his speakers by watching a YT video while listening on entirely different speakers? (I am willing to ignore the lossy audio compression issues here)

The entire concept is weird but if someone wants to do that a decent flat microphone is better.

Just have listed to people using phone mics or air buds on YouTube or talking heads shows: It sucks.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

@highfigh and @Trell, you both missed the point. As I said, having the best mic and measuring at a close distance does not make the reproduction of such a recording any more faithful. Assuming the YT speaker is bright and your home speakers are warm, do you seriously think listening to speakers playing on YT would provide an accurate idea about their sound?

 

[Trell]

@highfigh and @Trell, you both missed the point. As I said, having the best mic and measuring at a close distance does not make the reproduction of such a recording any more faithful. Assuming the YT speaker is bright and your home speakers are warm, do you seriously think listening to speakers playing on YT would provide an accurate idea about their sound?

I did not miss your point at all as I wrote in reply to your post:

>>>The entire concept is weird but if someone wants to do that a decent flat microphone is better.<<<

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

I did not miss your point at all as I wrote in reply to your post:

>>>The entire concept is weird but if someone wants to do that a decent flat microphone is better.<<<

fair enough. Better Mic => Better recording, but my issue is judging speakers' quality by their YT video, which isn't just weird but makes no sense.

 

[highfigh]

@highfigh and @Trell, you both missed the point. As I said, having the best mic and measuring at a close distance does not make the reproduction of such a recording any more faithful. Assuming the YT speaker is bright and your home speakers are warm, do you seriously think listening to speakers playing on YT would provide an accurate idea about their sound?

How will that fail to improve the sound quality compared with a recording device, when distance removes low frequency level when dynamic mics are used?

If a speaker can re(produce) relatively flat frequency response when measured from the usual 1 meter, using a dynamic mic with proximity effect will lose a lot of low end if the video is recorded with the mic/phone across the room, at much greater distance. There's no way that speaker will ever sound the way it should from that video.

I have watched enough videos from people who think their speakers are incredible, but the audio never lets them sound as good as they say. OTOH, I have heard some audio that lets the speakers sound much better. As I posted, I want to hear the speakers, not the room.

 

[Mikado463]

Even though the Op has not responded back to his thread I though I would add to the discussion with this link to a vid which for those of us old enough, is a nice walk down memory lane, as well as the history behind Swerd's avatar ...........

 

[MrBoat]

The biggest challenge with 'watching' youtube audio videos is finding content that isn't already done to death. I honestly don't know what the next meaningful advance in audio technology is to be but, as it stands now, it seems to have eaten itself out of house and home with information overload, otherwise.

I have to go to the DIY side of audio to find interesting stuff that isn't so mainstream. I can't possibly watch another review or chat on yet another low sensitivity 5.25" bookshelf speaker or 50 Watt amp. The sheer amount of off brand products would overwhelm me if I had to shop for something new. I'd most certainly choose one of my old standby's like JBL, than to wade through all the names and products there are now.

Nothing online comes close to the face-to-face social, and firsthand exposure aspect that hi-fi used to enjoy before we got all internet happy. You could really come to a lot of the same audio conclusions that way, along with the inner depths of the music itself. This drove fandom, product and method discovery and everything else. We used to take turns visiting each other's systems frequently. It's been kind of hard to come down from that, in exchange for this cyber-audio thing we do now. I reckon this youtube thing might work for newbies and youngsters, but I can't imagine me finding any real interest or excitement there. I used up youtube pretty quickly on a number of subjects so far.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

Easy. Bewbs.