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fmw

Audioholic Ninja
Americans are used to criticism. My father's first hi fi system was a monaural system with a Rek O Kut turntable and leak amp driving a Klipschorn. Shortly stereo arrived and he added a second Kipschorn. When he built his new house he installed the infinite baffle Bozak system I have described elsewhere and he gave me the Klipschorns so I am very very familiar with them.

I have always liked the sound of British speakers as well. Those Klipshorns replaced my monaural system that featured a full range Wharfdale speaker in a home made enclosure. I used a Garrard record changer with it. When I recovered from high end audio, I was using a pair of B&W 802s. I have a pair of small Epos floorstanders supported with a B&W subwoofer in my bedroom currently so I have experience with British speakers as well. In those days American speakers were considered more aggressive and British speakers more reserved. That has gone away over time.
 
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fmw

Audioholic Ninja
No speaker should need equalizer settings like that.
Nor would the fact that they were necessary be true. I think it is a plus that equalizers like that have fallen out of favor. The digital correction we have today is much better.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
Nor would the fact that they were necessary be true. I think it is a plus that equalizers like that have fallen out of favor. The digital correction we have today is much better.
My statement stands- it's not about analog vs digital correction, no good speaker should need that EQ curve.
 
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fmw

Audioholic Ninja
My statement stands- it's not about analog vs digital correction, no good speaker should need that EQ curve.
My point is that because it is shown in a photograph doesn't mean it was needed. Using ears to set an equalizer doesn't correct, it feeds personal preference. Most equalizers were set that way. The modern correction uses measurements. I'm not sure why we have so much anger at A7 speakers but I doubt much of it stems from actually listening to a pair.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
My point is that because it is shown in a photograph doesn't mean it was needed. Using ears to set an equalizer doesn't correct, it feeds personal preference. Most equalizers were set that way. The modern correction uses measurements. I'm not sure why we have so much anger at A7 speakers but I doubt much of it stems from actually listening to a pair.
But oddly enough, using the happy face curve satisfies peoples' preferences well enough, more often than not.

Heard them- don't hate them. My beef was with the EQ settings but seriously, those weren't made for small rooms.
 
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renardanderson

Audiophyte
In 1966 I bought two Altec Lansing A7 Voice of the Theater speakers and I am now looking for a firm in the Baltimore Maryland area that might consider doing some up grades. So far I have had no luck, Any suggestions PS The new LegecyA7s are out of my price range at $4000 each
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I doubt they have much value today except perhaps to a collector. I would sell them online and use the proceeds to complete your upgrade. I had a pair of Klipschorns stored in my basement for many years.
 
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MrBoat

Audioholic Ninja
Nor would the fact that they were necessary be true. I think it is a plus that equalizers like that have fallen out of favor. The digital correction we have today is much better.
The digital correction may be better these days, but the dwelling architecture and interior decor trends are the pits. Back then, the EQ was more for recording variables than room acoustic issues. In all but dedicated theater or sound rooms these days, general living space sound systems start out as a train wreck that manual EQ could never touch.

Graphic EQ in the older living spaces I tend to historically choose, was always around flat with a slight boost in (more of a frown) the mids, provided the system had enough headroom across the board. It's still similar with modern speakers but mostly flat with the highs ticked down. A friend who insisted on letting him try to enact the auto room correction on my receiver, was surprised it had pretty much inflicted the same result, more or less. Only difference was that I had the subs a little hot, and that was for the older recordings I was listening to at the time, washed out (likely so it would all fit on vinyl) bass.

Tone controls and manual EQ still work for 2 channel music, at least for those with a lot of practice using them. Most people who were heavy into music from the '70s on in our group, were into it enough to make it a topic of discussion and there were always pretty much unanimous agreement with regard to adjustments made during group sessions that could last for days when a new record came out.

These days, people don't want to make their own coffee or cook their own meals, never mind being tasked with spontaneously and selectively EQ'ng their music on the fly. Heaven forbid, we ever disagree with the so-called, perfected technology.
 
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