Upgrade the Stereo Sound

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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
From the photos, it looks like the B&W towers are spaced much too far apart, but it doesn't look like you have floor space to put them closer together. I would get rid of the B&W towers and get some bookshelf speakers you can place to the left and right of the TV on that shelving. The biggest problem you have here is loudspeaker placement, not loudspeaker brand.
 
Mikado463

Mikado463

Audioholic Spartan
aside from the clutter I see plenty wrong. Speaker position(or lack thereof) , listening chairs against wall (never good) for starters
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Well not quite ideal for audio perhaps, but many have to use a room for a variety of purposes. Speaker placement and room could use improvement but your positioning could well be limited by needs/uses for other than audio as well as the room itself. Looks like it could use some absorption in the way of a floor covering or wall treatments or something along those lines. I don't think electronics are your issue.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Specifically speaking for stereo performance, placement is the #1 issue. No calibration or electronics OR treatments are going to solve that. I agree that a good bookshelf is probably a good bet for better placement. Towers don't exactly make sense in this room.
 
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rnortada

Enthusiast
aside from the clutter I see plenty wrong. Speaker position(or lack thereof) , listening chairs against wall (never good) for starters
No listening chairs against the wall. The sofa is in the middle of the room.
 
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Wardog555

Full Audioholic
Let's focus on proper speaker placement first shall we?

I'll leave you a document which I'll encourage you to focus on the angles from the main listening position and figure out where to place the speakers in your room and then reposition the speakers as close as possible to the spec.


I ask that you consider very carefully and consider all possible options before deciding.

People seem to believe that you can place speakers anywhere without effort but why would Dolby themselves publish guidelines and specifications if it didn't matter?

Wish you the best!
 
everettT

everettT

Audioholic Spartan
Others have already mentioned it and set-up is your issue. I'd get bookshelf/monitor speakers and focus on acoustic center and and your ear height at the MLP. There are a few bookshelf speakers that play into the mid 30s if you want to use two channel without a sub.
 
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fmw

Audioholic Ninja
Hi like very much the 702 s2. I think i'm not using all of their potencial.
Speakers and room acoustics determine the sound quality of a system. If you like the speakers then the room acoustics is the place to go. If have an urge to buy new electronics then just understand that is not where the sound quality of a system is generated.
 
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rnortada

Enthusiast
Moved the entire furniture and reduced almost a meter to the center for the front right speaker. It made a difference, more balanced and present sound. I know that both front speakers are not at the perfect angle but i cannot shrink furniture nor i want to return to bookshelf speakers. I like them to much for it. Thats for all the feedback.
 
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Wardog555

Full Audioholic
Don't forget to also do room calibration. I use manual calibration by using a spl meter for speaker levels and tape measure for speaker distances.

Best of luck!
 
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MrBoat

Audioholic Ninja
One of the best ways to find out if you really like your speakers for music initially is to listen to them immediate near field, and work outwards incrementally from there. While trying to notice the image, phantom center and anything else you can get from them. It's easier to notice how adjusting the toe-in/out angles effect the sound and feel of them.

I could never tell from an audition from an audio store if I was going to like speakers after I got them home. At least not with the way they had them set up in their room. I could listen to them point blank though and tell if I could work with them or not. I used to have the sales rep take them off the shelf and set them up on chairs if need be. Same sales guy started doing this for other customers as well.
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
I suspect because its a receiver in charge of the stereo sound, no ?
The speakers, their placement and the way the room affects the sound have more influence on the sound than the receiver, IMO. While any bad characteristics from the receiver may become apparent with better speakers, lower quality speakers often won't reveal them. With the same speakers, changing the electronics might not be an improvement.

Make sure the speaker placement allows them to do their job- it makes a difference. Putting them 'where they're allowed to be' is only a compromise.
 
EthicalEar

EthicalEar

Junior Audioholic
702's are sweet! Difficult to let go, so don't. Why not add some coasters and or get Sound isolating platform and add some soft wheels. Move your speakers easily when you are ready for serious listening and movie effects. Toe them in a bit for good imagery. When done, roll them back on that very nice wooden floor, out of the way of the kids play area. I got these platforms from Amazon for my mains. You could slide them but putting some wheels on them wouldn't be to hard and problem solved for a little over 100.00! Isolation platform.jpg
rubber wheels.jpg Wheels aren't the audiophile preferred method of sound quality but just might be your best bet without rearranging everything else. Crazy solution, I understand if I get criticized for this. I used wheels on my speaker amps in my rock&roll days. Roadies insisted on it as they were heavy!
 
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rnortada

Enthusiast
Don't forget to also do room calibration. I use manual calibration by using a spl meter for speaker levels and tape measure for speaker distances.

Best of luck!
I use denon calibrarion than spl meter, crossovers, etc
 
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