Ford foreshadows no more Ford dealerships

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Since this thread has evolved into a walk down memory lane for some of us 'old farts' here's a memory tester.........

Why were all GM cars back in the day supplied with two types of keys ?

One for doors/trunk, one for ignition switch. Unfortunately, they had a very small number of variations, so the chance of being able to open or start someone else's car was good and car thieves knew this. Even with the small number of optional key cuts, thieves started peeling the column in order to start a car because they knew the police would arrest them for carrying tools for stealing cars when they had a full set if they weren't a locksmith.

When I did car audio, kids who just got their first car, often about 16-18 years old, would say "The square one is for the ignition, round (or oval, if it was a Ford) is for the door". Thanks, junior- I never would have figured that out.

 

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At least the gas stations and 18-wheelers used to transport fuel will still be up and running after the EMP attack too, right?

They could if they have this kind of pump-

 

[Mikado463]

One for doors/trunk, one for ignition switch. Unfortunately, they had a very small number of variations, so the chance of being able to open or start someone else's car was good and car thieves knew this. Even with the small number of optional key cuts, thieves started peeling the column in order to start a car because they knew the police would arrest them for carrying tools for stealing cars when they had a full set if they weren't a locksmith.

When I did car audio, kids who just got their first car, often about 16-18 years old, would say "The square one is for the ignition, round (or oval, if it was a Ford) is for the door". Thanks, junior- I never would have figured that out.

while your answer is correct the actual reason was that all GM cars were 'Body by Fisher' and thus the bodies(with the associated door key) were assembled off site from the final assembly plant where they were married up to their respective chassis which had the ignition key for it.

back in the day the door sills read 'Body by Fisher' with carriage in the emblem

 

[cpp]

very nice Chris, lets see a pic ! 45 years ago my first Corvette was a '66, Ermine white, base (327/300), M21

I've had a few, but it gets harder to get out of the darn things with bad knees. I might go to auction next year in Kissimmee.

 

[SithZedi]

while your answer is correct the actual reason was that all GM cars were 'Body by Fisher' and thus the bodies(with the associated door key) were assembled off site from the final assembly plant where they were married up to their respective chassis which had the ignition key for it.

back in the day the door sills read 'Body by Fisher' with carriage in the emblem

Yeah, my dads Chevy Bel Air had the carriage...only GM car we ever had. He was mainly a Dodge guy,

 

[Mikado463]

I've had a few, but it gets harder to get out of the darn things with bad knees. I might go to auction next year in Kissimmee.

very nice, BB, side pipe mid-year !!

I hear 'ya on the knee issue and while I also deal with it I have no plans to sell my '67 BB !

 

[SithZedi]

Forgot to mention some in the Fisher family bought a vineyard in Napa in the 1970s.
You can see the carriage on the label.

2015 Fisher Vineyards Coach Insignia Cabernet Sauvignon

2015 Fisher Vineyards Coach Insignia Cabernet Sauvignon from Napa Valley for sale on WineBid. Browse our auction and buy vintage wine today!

www.winebid.com

 

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Ah, the M21 Rock Crusher.

That would be the M22 Rock Crusher. The M22 Rock Crusher was to accommodate the heavy twist of Chevrolet's big-blocks in the mid-1960s The M20 and M21 transmissions produced from 1963-'74 are easy to identify in both wide- and close-ratio units. The M22 to come later in 1967-'74 is also a close-ratio unit, but much stronger than the M21, with a higher torque capacity.

 

[Mikado463]

That would be the M22 Rock Crusher. The M22 Rock Crusher was to accommodate the heavy twist of Chevrolet's big-blocks in the mid-1960s The M20 and M21 transmissions produced from 1963-'74 are easy to identify in both wide- and close-ratio units. The M22 to come later in 1967-'74 is also a close-ratio unit, but much stronger than the M21, with a higher torque capacity.

Correct, M22 had straight cut gears thus the 'rock crusher' moniker

 

[MaxInValrico]

Since this thread has evolved into a walk down memory lane for some of us 'old farts' here's a memory tester.........

Why were all GM cars back in the day supplied with two types of keys ?

if I recall, one was for the locks, one was for the ignition. Square head was for the ignition, round for the locks I think.

 

[Mikado463]

if I recall, one was for the locks, one was for the ignition. Square head was for the ignition, round for the locks I think.

yep and the reason was outlined in post #103

 

[cpp]

Since this thread has evolved into a walk down memory lane for some of us 'old farts' here's a memory tester..

Old folks rock . In my state you become an official old folk, a senior citizen, at 60.

 

[panteragstk]

Old folks rock . In my state you become an official old folk, a senior citizen, at 60.

I feel like that's just the general rule.

 

[Audioklepto]

...or cook food, or heat their homes, or get any news about what the hell is going on, etc.


I have no idea. But, if it's strong enough to kill electric vehicles, it'll do the same to dinosaur-powered ones, as well...unless you are driving an antique. Then again, good luck getting fuel for that antique.

I park my ev under a grounded metal roof. Would that protect it?

 

[Audioklepto]

Who will make the repairs and who will train the service techs? Each brand does things a bit differently and they WILL want to sell parts- they may want to transition into a 'no dealer' model, but it will take a long time because they still sell a lot of vehicles, subject to the availability of specific components like the ICs that are so hard to get now. Also, salespeople will need to learn about EV and alternative fuel or they won't have a job- what they will sell isn't their choice.

EVs have few moving parts to wear out. 2 motor stators (on my car) a few gears, axles & wheels. Regen instead of brakes saves pads & puts e- back in the battery. "Recalls" for most ev have been software related and mine updates in the garage. No oil, no trany, spark plugs intake filter, & it's ready every morning, no stops to fill up. Very few 'mechanics' will be needed.

 

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EVs have few moving parts to wear out. 2 motor stators (on my car) a few gears, axles & wheels. Regen instead of brakes saves pads & puts e- back in the battery. "Recalls" for most ev have been software related and mine updates in the garage. No oil, no trany, spark plugs intake filter, & it's ready every morning, no stops to fill up. Very few 'mechanics' will be needed.

No, but they have doors with hinges, switches, a heater that could kill the battery if a problem arises and other electronic creature comforts that can need servicing. Auto mechanics aren't always good with electrical problems and I have seen it in action, as well as having spoken with them when they had a hard time finding something that was causing problems.