gas prices

[highfigh]

As far as the former, I don't know - cloud seeding I think? For the latter, he infiltrated Bohemian Grove some time ago and reported on it.

A little info:

THE BOHEMIAN GROVE - Worshipping Molech - Child Sacrifice - Operation Reach The Lost

For two weeks every summer, the 2,700-acre secured private camp, 20601 Bohemian Avenue, in Monte Rio in the Ancient Redwood Forest of Northern California, plays host to a selectively-invited swath of the most powerful men in the world. Every Republican U.S. president since 1923 has been a

www.operationreachthelost.com

His video (admittedly, I have heard about it but have not watched):

This one is funny - he confronts David Gergen about his involvement in BG. Gergen gets pissed!

Supposedly, BH is guarded by former military, so I don't know how he got in- maybe he was a guest.

Silver Iodide has been used for cloud seeding for a long time, but before I asked, I searched for a connection and did see some reference to COVID. I'm not going to waste much time looking into this payaso.

 

[j_garcia]

the station I wanted to go to was being redone and was closed, so I had to go to the nearest one and paid $5.49/gal.

 

[Hattrick17]

So you guys are holding the president responsible for gas prices? What else are you holding him responsible for? The rising cost of tomatoes? Shortages in cucumbers? You do realize that the only way a president can directly affect the cost of gasoline is by opening up the strategic patroluem reserves, or declaring war on a gas-producing country, or signing legislation that taxes gas, or placing an embargo on a gas-producing nation? Do any of those sound like good ideas to you? Do you know that oil companies have made many billions in profit for these price increases? And you know what they are using that profit for? Stock buybacks.

It is a sign of one not understanding open market capitalism. To blame any President for the control of a product pricing is absurd. If you want to blame anyone blame the Oil Companies for Vulture Capitalizing everyone in the world for the cost of a barrel of oil. I maybe incorrect but the only nations which do not abide to the open market pricing of a barrel of crude is the OPEC nations. Hence they sell can control the cost of fuel outside of the world markets. Thus making available to their public a dollar a gallon or less for gasoline. They control their own energy. The rest of the world doesn't. They depend on open market values. If the USA did this one, the oil companies would scream! Two, if the USA controlled its own oil and not be in participation of world wide markets then the cost would be under a dollar a gallon like OPEC nations.

 

[SithZedi]

It is a sign of one not understanding open market capitalism. To blame any President for the control of a product pricing is absurd. If you want to blame anyone blame the Oil Companies for Vulture Capitalizing everyone in the world for the cost of a barrel of oil. I maybe incorrect but the only nations which do not abide to the open market pricing of a barrel of crude is the OPEC nations. Hence they sell can control the cost of fuel outside of the world markets. Thus making available to their public a dollar a gallon or less for gasoline. They control their own energy. The rest of the world doesn't. They depend on open market values. If the USA did this one, the oil companies would scream! Two, if the USA controlled its own oil and not be in participation of world wide markets then the cost would be under a dollar a gallon like OPEC nations.

To your second point. We have to increase the supply and the price come down.
Bush the Younger put the US on a path to do this in 2005...

Energy Policy Act of 2005 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Hattrick17]

To your second point. We have to increase the supply and the price come down.
Bush the Younger put the US on a path to do this in 2005...

Energy Policy Act of 2005 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You mean there has to be a world supply increase. There currently is no shortage of oil anywhere. The cost of oil is just pure greed of corporate oil control. If Oil was regulated which it isn't the cost would be lower.

 

[SithZedi]

You mean there has to be a world supply increase. There currently is no shortage of oil anywhere. The cost of oil is just pure greed of corporate oil control. If Oil was regulated which it isn't the cost would be lower.

Yes, a supply increase everywhere. OPEC just gave us the finger over the weekend by saying they will not increase production even though the US asked them too. What will the US response be.?
When you regulate a product you get less of it.

 

[Dude#1279435]

Energy Policy Act of 2005 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Wiki

 

[SithZedi]

Wiki

Sometimes you have to dance with the devil...

 

[BMXTRIX]

I care about gas prices, but I think people are just f'cking ridiculous about being stupid on it.

The number of people who bought a big a$$ truck which gets horrible gas mileage ONLY have themselves to blame. It's not like gas has been $1.50 a gallon for the last 30 years. It's been STEADILY increasing, and the only real drop was when we had a disease which cut half the traffic off the roads. It immediately bounced back as soon as the traffic returned to our roadways. Which actually SHOCKED the stupid.

The stupid then continue to be shocked that world events that include this stupidity from Russia further inflate oil (and hence) gas prices.

My last car took 18 gallons of premium. It was expensive the day I got it, and more expensive the day I sold it. I never complained once. I made that purchase decision knowing full well that I would need to buy gas for it.

Why are others so butt hurt over the fact that their 20+ gallon tank on their extra large wahoo vehicle actually costs more to fill up? Did this NEVER occur to some people when the bought it? Did they not see gas jump in price dramatically at times from year to year over the last 20 years? Because... they can't read?

It's insane to me. I drive a minivan that doesn't get great gas mileage. I knew this from the day I got it. I need it to carry stuff for my work. My work, in return, then is what gives me the money to fill the tank. So, I'll make a bit less because of prices this year. But, maybe I charge a few bucks more. That's the circle.
Maybe next year I buy a Prius and only use my van when I have to. Maybe I could have done that a couple of years ago.

At the end of the day, people complaining about having to fill up the vehicles they bought with gasoline is just one of the stupidest things out there. It just shows a complete lack of common sense.

Let's also complain about the taxes on the large homes we buy. The HOA fees in our HOA neighborhood we moved into. The price of food at Whole Foods. How much it costs to maintain our luxury car.

We can't control gas prices, but most of us can control what kind of car we are purchasing to drive daily.

 

[SithZedi]

I care about gas prices, but I think people are just f'cking ridiculous about being stupid on it.

The number of people who bought a big a$$ truck which gets horrible gas mileage ONLY have themselves to blame. It's not like gas has been $1.50 a gallon for the last 30 years. It's been STEADILY increasing, and the only real drop was when we had a disease which cut half the traffic off the roads. It immediately bounced back as soon as the traffic returned to our roadways. Which actually SHOCKED the stupid.

The stupid then continue to be shocked that world events that include this stupidity from Russia further inflate oil (and hence) gas prices.

My last car took 18 gallons of premium. It was expensive the day I got it, and more expensive the day I sold it. I never complained once. I made that purchase decision knowing full well that I would need to buy gas for it.

Why are others so butt hurt over the fact that their 20+ gallon tank on their extra large wahoo vehicle actually costs more to fill up? Did this NEVER occur to some people when the bought it? Did they not see gas jump in price dramatically at times from year to year over the last 20 years? Because... they can't read?

It's insane to me. I drive a minivan that doesn't get great gas mileage. I knew this from the day I got it. I need it to carry stuff for my work. My work, in return, then is what gives me the money to fill the tank. So, I'll make a bit less because of prices this year. But, maybe I charge a few bucks more. That's the circle.
Maybe next year I buy a Prius and only use my van when I have to. Maybe I could have done that a couple of years ago.

At the end of the day, people complaining about having to fill up the vehicles they bought with gasoline is just one of the stupidest things out there. It just shows a complete lack of common sense.

Let's also complain about the taxes on the large homes we buy. The HOA fees in our HOA neighborhood we moved into. The price of food at Whole Foods. How much it costs to maintain our luxury car.

We can't control gas prices, but most of us can control what kind of car we are purchasing to drive daily.

Agree with your points on personal choice of vehicle. I will only buy cars that take 87 octane. I just wish they would take the ethanol out of the mix that my mechanic complains about....

 

[j_garcia]

I care about gas prices, but I think people are just f'cking ridiculous about being stupid on it.

The number of people who bought a big a$$ truck which gets horrible gas mileage ONLY have themselves to blame. It's not like gas has been $1.50 a gallon for the last 30 years. It's been STEADILY increasing, and the only real drop was when we had a disease which cut half the traffic off the roads. It immediately bounced back as soon as the traffic returned to our roadways. Which actually SHOCKED the stupid.

The stupid then continue to be shocked that world events that include this stupidity from Russia further inflate oil (and hence) gas prices.

My last car took 18 gallons of premium. It was expensive the day I got it, and more expensive the day I sold it. I never complained once. I made that purchase decision knowing full well that I would need to buy gas for it.

Why are others so butt hurt over the fact that their 20+ gallon tank on their extra large wahoo vehicle actually costs more to fill up? Did this NEVER occur to some people when the bought it? Did they not see gas jump in price dramatically at times from year to year over the last 20 years? Because... they can't read?

It's insane to me. I drive a minivan that doesn't get great gas mileage. I knew this from the day I got it. I need it to carry stuff for my work. My work, in return, then is what gives me the money to fill the tank. So, I'll make a bit less because of prices this year. But, maybe I charge a few bucks more. That's the circle.
Maybe next year I buy a Prius and only use my van when I have to. Maybe I could have done that a couple of years ago.

At the end of the day, people complaining about having to fill up the vehicles they bought with gasoline is just one of the stupidest things out there. It just shows a complete lack of common sense.

Let's also complain about the taxes on the large homes we buy. The HOA fees in our HOA neighborhood we moved into. The price of food at Whole Foods. How much it costs to maintain our luxury car.

We can't control gas prices, but most of us can control what kind of car we are purchasing to drive daily.

Actually, it doesn't occur to some people. I knew a lot of guys who bought STIs only to sell them a year or two later saying gas was costing them too much (duh, you have a long commute and it is an STI). That means you didn't check that when you bought it, because we all know that going in. I knew it and factored that in to the cost of ownership.

My second car used to be a WRX which was totally stock and got OK mileage while still being fun. When the dealer totaled it and I had to buy another car, I couldn't replace it with something equivalent without paying an arm and a leg thanks to the supply chain. I bought a second STI knowing mileage would be an issue because it was the only decent car I could find that wasn't overpriced since it needed a little work. I can't drive them both at the same time lol.

 

[SithZedi]

Actually, it doesn't occur to some people. I knew a lot of guys who bought STIs only to sell them a year or two later saying gas was costing them too much (duh, you have a long commute and it is an STI). That means you didn't check that when you bought it, because we all know that going in. I knew it and factored that in to the cost of ownership.

My second car used to be a WRX which was totally stock and got OK mileage while still being fun. When the dealer totaled it and I had to buy another car, I couldn't replace it with something equivalent without paying an arm and a leg. I bought a second STI knowing mileage would be an issue because it was the only decent car I could find that wasn't overpriced since it needed a little work.

Sorry, I had to share this on a difficult morning.....
I was reading quickly and I read "who bought STIs" as "who got STIs".
STI = Sexually Transmitted Infection.....yeah , I know...

 

[j_garcia]

Well, with the invasion, we can expect gas to shoot through the veritable roof. Was watching news last night an that was one of their comments, that this will impact prices for sure. They did also say that there was an obviously artificially high price on oil even before that started and an investigation was being called for.

 

[Replicant 7]

Agree with your points on personal choice of vehicle. I will only buy cars that take 87 octane. I just wish they would take the ethanol out of the mix that my mechanic complains about....

Ethanol is Not good for the fuel systems.

 

[lp85253]

I care about gas prices, but I think people are just f'cking ridiculous about being stupid on it.

The number of people who bought a big a$$ truck which gets horrible gas mileage ONLY have themselves to blame. It's not like gas has been $1.50 a gallon for the last 30 years. It's been STEADILY increasing, and the only real drop was when we had a disease which cut half the traffic off the roads. It immediately bounced back as soon as the traffic returned to our roadways. Which actually SHOCKED the stupid.

The stupid then continue to be shocked that world events that include this stupidity from Russia further inflate oil (and hence) gas prices.

My last car took 18 gallons of premium. It was expensive the day I got it, and more expensive the day I sold it. I never complained once. I made that purchase decision knowing full well that I would need to buy gas for it.

Why are others so butt hurt over the fact that their 20+ gallon tank on their extra large wahoo vehicle actually costs more to fill up? Did this NEVER occur to some people when the bought it? Did they not see gas jump in price dramatically at times from year to year over the last 20 years? Because... they can't read?

It's insane to me. I drive a minivan that doesn't get great gas mileage. I knew this from the day I got it. I need it to carry stuff for my work. My work, in return, then is what gives me the money to fill the tank. So, I'll make a bit less because of prices this year. But, maybe I charge a few bucks more. That's the circle.
Maybe next year I buy a Prius and only use my van when I have to. Maybe I could have done that a couple of years ago.

At the end of the day, people complaining about having to fill up the vehicles they bought with gasoline is just one of the stupidest things out there. It just shows a complete lack of common sense.

Let's also complain about the taxes on the large homes we buy. The HOA fees in our HOA neighborhood we moved into. The price of food at Whole Foods. How much it costs to maintain our luxury car.

We can't control gas prices, but most of us can control what kind of car we are purchasing to drive daily.

ding ding ding.. we have a winner...although someone somewhere will now blame "radical lib agenda" for their own stupidity on vehicle choice.. it's inevitable...

 

[lp85253]

Alex Jones leaves Carlson in the dust, but Jones isn't seen on a major network.

Jones is the die used to make benchmarks and comes with a full set of drawings & a mockup.

says the tc fan...Carlson is a pile o' shite..he's just slightly more polished ...

 

[j_garcia]

Ethanol is Not good for the fuel systems.

If the system is designed to handle it, it can work. It isn't good for the cars though.

 

[Hattrick17]

Yes, a supply increase everywhere. OPEC just gave us the finger over the weekend by saying they will not increase production even though the US asked them too. What will the US response be.?
When you regulate a product you get less of it.

I disagree per you statement regarding regulations. Not sure what State you live in but many states have all their private utilities regulated per cost to the consumer. Any price increases have to be justified per by a State regulatory committee for approval. This works wonders for these States protecting the public in those states from Vulture Capitalistic profiteering moves by the Corporate run utility. This one prevents actions by Utility companies as seen in Texas which the consumer not only got far less from the utility corporation but also got priced gouged at the same time. In the State I live in regulates private utility companies and thus the public in the State I live in pays a reasonable regulated unit cost for NG and Electricity. Thus this point if imposed to the US Oil Producers would work. If we make the oil be owned by the USA not the Oil Companies but pay them to extract and refine our oil and not let them sell it overseas on the world market then we too can be free from the clutches of the fabricated world wide Demand Oil Pricing. Many Oil companies would probably fold in the USA which is fine others will come in to fill the void and be profitable just like utility companies as stated in my State. As per demand, the demand is falling every year being the world is moving away from oil very quickly. Thus the tactics by OPEC is them finding away to squeeze as much from the world public it can with price gouging. They can only reduce demand to a point otherwise they too will suffer economically.

 

[Replicant 7]

If the system is designed to handle it, it can work. It isn't good for the cars though.

Really don't need ethanol. You'll get much better gas mileage burning fuel with no ethanol. But you'll pay more also.

 

[Hattrick17]

To your second point. We have to increase the supply and the price come down.
Bush the Younger put the US on a path to do this in 2005...

Energy Policy Act of 2005 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

His concept helps the oil companies he is an oil man. To have the USA extract and refine all the oil we can find in our country to be sold on the world market is stupid and would eventually bite us in the ass. The key is get our oil out of and off the world trade of oil. If we did this, We would all be enjoying low cost gas for those who need it. Being our oil consumed only by us. With the rapid conversion of manufactured vehicles to electric and or hybrid electric the demand will continue to go down. Thus the fabrication of more demand by reducing the world wide supply and price gouge those who still need Oil for fuel is the only way to sustain profitability. Which is exactly what is occurring. Those off the oil grid for fuel are not effected as much except for the cost of good purchased which again is a fabrication of Corporate Big Food.