Brighter OLED coming?

[Hetfield]

LG OLED EX just fixed the biggest problem with OLED TVs

LG Display OLED EX makes TVs brighter to compete with mini-LED

www.tomsguide.com

Interesting article on LG making OLED brighter trying to compete with LED/Mini-LED. I wonder though what this is gonna cost and if they are gonna get into tier systems in a big way like LED does. LED has cheap dim TV's, and then bright ones with zones.
I hope OLED doesn't turn into all this tier crap and dim cheap ones and expensive bright ones.

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[Mr._Clark]

LG OLED EX just fixed the biggest problem with OLED TVs

LG Display OLED EX makes TVs brighter to compete with mini-LED

www.tomsguide.com

Interesting article on LG making OLED brighter trying to compete with LED/Mini-LED. I wonder though what this is gonna cost and if they are gonna get into tier systems in a big way like LED does. LED has cheap dim TV's, and then bright ones with zones.
I hope OLED doesn't turn into all this tier crap and dim cheap ones and expensive bright ones.

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Ha! Ya beat me to it! I just noticed an article about it at arstechnica.

Upcoming LG TVs will address one of OLED’s biggest flaws

LG will start mass producing OLED EX TVs in 2022.

arstechnica.com

 

[Trell]

I rather have better motion handling and motion resolution than increased brightness.

 

[TLS Guy]

LG OLED EX just fixed the biggest problem with OLED TVs

LG Display OLED EX makes TVs brighter to compete with mini-LED

www.tomsguide.com

Interesting article on LG making OLED brighter trying to compete with LED/Mini-LED. I wonder though what this is gonna cost and if they are gonna get into tier systems in a big way like LED does. LED has cheap dim TV's, and then bright ones with zones.
I hope OLED doesn't turn into all this tier crap and dim cheap ones and expensive bright ones.

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I have a 77" C class LG OLED. It is plenty bright, and I would not want it any brighter.

 

[Hetfield]

I kinda agree that OLED really doesn't need to be bright or that much brighter. I mean I don't own OLED, sadly I do not, but seems to me it's the contrast that makes OLED so special. It's the deep black levels and color that give it that picture quality. I don't think brightness is a major factor but I guess LG is going after the people who complain OLED isn't bright like LED.

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[NINaudio]

I kinda agree that OLED really doesn't need to be bright or that much brighter. I mean I don't own OLED, sadly I do not, but seems to me it's the contrast that makes OLED so special. It's the deep black levels and color that give it that picture quality. I don't think brightness is a major factor but I guess LG is going after the people who complain OLED isn't bright like LED.

The extra brightness should make it more competitive against LED screens in brighter rooms and help it perform better with HDR content.

Also, addressing an earlier comment you made: the Ars Technica article says that LG will start making all their panels with this new technology in Q2 2022, so there shouldn't be any "tiers".

 

[Hetfield]

The extra brightness should make it more competitive against LED screens in brighter rooms and help it perform better with HDR content.

Also, addressing an earlier comment you made: the Ars Technica article says that LG will start making all their panels with this new technology in Q2 2022, so there shouldn't be any "tiers".

I hope so because there is a small 2 tier system now. I hate that about LED, too many, so dam many variables with LED.

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[Trell]

The extra brightness should make it more competitive against LED screens in brighter rooms and help it perform better with HDR content.

Also, addressing an earlier comment you made: the Ars Technica article says that LG will start making all their panels with this new technology in Q2 2022, so there shouldn't be any "tiers".

In a not too distant future new TV sets will be equipped with these as a mandatory safety requirement.

Watching a Dolby Vision movie in the dark can be real uncomfortable at times when a dark scene suddenly gets very bright on my LG OLED CX.

 

[Hetfield]

In a not too distant future new TV sets will be equipped with these as a mandatory safety requirement.

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I have the TCL 75R635 and I often during HDR scenes, HDR white scenes have to squint. Oh that's right I watched the first episode of the Disney+ show Welcome to Earth and was squinting at certain scenes. And people say this TV isn't that bright. I can't imagine what a truly "bright" TV looks like then.

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[BMXTRIX]

The reality is that OLED simply would struggle in my family room. I had a plasma for years that I was reasonably happy with, but when I went to a LCD, the jump in brightness made it so much easier to watch and enjoy during the daytime. There are tons of homes like mine with large windows and nearby windows to their television screens that just can't be avoided. I do have a theater and projector for that stuff. But, I would really struggle to go to OLED in my family room, no matter how amazing it looks, because it simply isn't bright enough. I still REALLY want one, but will stick with LCD for the moment.

I also think that dynamic brightness really should make you squint a bit with HDR content. Normally though, a TV should be comfortably bright. If every single 'white' was enough to make your squint, then that's not an accurate TV at all.

 

[Hetfield]

The reality is that OLED simply would struggle in my family room. I had a plasma for years that I was reasonably happy with, but when I went to a LCD, the jump in brightness made it so much easier to watch and enjoy during the daytime. There are tons of homes like mine with large windows and nearby windows to their television screens that just can't be avoided. I do have a theater and projector for that stuff. But, I would really struggle to go to OLED in my family room, no matter how amazing it looks, because it simply isn't bright enough. I still REALLY want one, but will stick with LCD for the moment.

I also think that dynamic brightness really should make you squint a bit with HDR content. Normally though, a TV should be comfortably bright. If every single 'white' was enough to make your squint, then that's not an accurate TV at all.

Well they are working exactly what you need. I'm sure LG will get to the brightness you and others need.
Fortunately my room is easily light controlled but I still have an LCD/LED but that's because I needed/wanted a 75 inch TV minimum and 77 inch OLEDs were too much for me at the time. Next time, in a few years they will be the right price for me.
My TCL LCD/LED can make me squint, it doesn't happen a lot but it happened the other night watching that Disney+ show. It was really cool how freaking bright it was though.

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[AcuDefTechGuy]

The reality is that OLED simply would struggle in my family room. I had a plasma for years that I was reasonably happy with, but when I went to a LCD, the jump in brightness made it so much easier to watch and enjoy during the daytime. There are tons of homes like mine with large windows and nearby windows to their television screens that just can't be avoided. I do have a theater and projector for that stuff. But, I would really struggle to go to OLED in my family room, no matter how amazing it looks, because it simply isn't bright enough. I still REALLY want one, but will stick with LCD for the moment.

I also think that dynamic brightness really should make you squint a bit with HDR content. Normally though, a TV should be comfortably bright. If every single 'white' was enough to make your squint, then that's not an accurate TV at all.

Interesting. I’ve never compared OLED vs LCD since I would never spend that kind of money for ANY TV.

So I never new until now that OLED TVs could be half as bright (nits) as some LCD TVs, like 870 nits vs 1900 nits. Significant difference.

OLED TVs aren't always great for HDR – here’s why

It all comes down to brightness

www.techradar.com

 

[SithZedi]

As usual this comes down to weighting what works for your room and viewing preferences.

I have a very bright room in the daytime with two large windows. Choosing a plasma was a no brainer 20 years ago for a bright room and viewing from any side angle vs the alternatives then. I have been a plasma person since then my first being a Pioneer Elite that is still going strong. Upgraded to a Panasonic Plasma 10 years ago(after they hired the Pioneer team) and recently bought the Sony AH8 OLED after lots of comparisons to LCDs.

The Sony OLED can be very bright if you dial them up from standard view so they are competitive with the best LCDs. Again its personal preference as I find getting a true black level more important when watching movies and the OLED excels here

 

[panteragstk]

My living room is bright, and I haven't once thought my OLED TV wasn't bright enough. I know plenty of rooms are brighter, but I just don't think it's needed. Nice to have though, but not necessary in but a few circumstances.

 

[cerwinmad]

After getting the A90j Oled recently, I simply couldn't go back to led. The zero blooming, infinite contrast and black levels are just glorious. I'd rather buy curtains for an extremely bright room rather than settle for led again.

 

[Replicant 7]

After getting the A90j Oled recently, I simply couldn't go back to led. The zero blooming, infinite contrast and black levels are just glorious. I'd rather buy curtains for an extremely bright room rather than settle for led again.

I know huh, my Son has Sony's Master Series 77" OLED. Gorgeous picture! When I come home and watch my LED full array backlit 55" I'm like this . Either a LG or Sony OLED will be in my setup before this year ends. My first choice is a Sony 65" Master Series, but the price is umm 3k so before the years up.

 

[SithZedi]

I know huh, my Son has Sony's Master Series 77" OLED. Gorgeous picture! When I come home and watch my LED full array backlit 55" I'm like this . Either a LG or Sony OLED will be in my setup before this year ends. My first choice is a Sony 65" Master Series, but the price is umm 3k so before the years up.

You can still grab a Sony 65 A80J for just under 2000. The A8H is 2,200 for a 2020 model but it still has the X1 Processor that is in the Master Series....

 

[Replicant 7]

Interesting. I’ve never compared OLED vs LCD since I would never spend that kind of money for ANY TV.

So I never new until now that OLED TVs could be half as bright (nits) as some LCD TVs, like 870 nits vs 1900 nits. Significant difference.

OLED TVs aren't always great for HDR – here’s why

It all comes down to brightness

www.techradar.com

800 nits is a lot Andrew. Dobly Vision HD needs a minimum of 400 nits to get full use of it on a 4K LED tv. So with that said, OLED 800+ nits will be bright. The thing of having more nits is like other's have stated, a very bright room would benefit with say 1000 or more. I say put some curtains up man. My cheap Hisense 4K 55" has 600 nits and it's bright! If I use the vivid setting it's like a big spot light in my small living room. I use the Theater Dark settings, but when Dolby Vision is detected tv automatically goes into a "Pro" setting for Dobly Vision, settings that can not be changed. Its very good, but it in no way compares to my Son's Sony's 77" Master Series OLED not even close. When I say you can count the hair's on the heads of the people in movies or see the makeup on the women, clear and in vivid detail on his 77" OLED is an understatement.

 

[Replicant 7]

You can still grab a Sony 65 A80J for just under 2000. The A8H is 2,200 for a 2020 model but it still has the X1 Processor that is in the Master Series....

I saw on BestBuys site the A80J for under 2K. That's the lowest I've seen for that model. I want the 65" A90J, it's 3200 at BestBuy. I'm hoping when the new Sony models come out this year they drop the price, say like 500 00 than I'll jump on one. The most I've ever spent on a tv was my 51" Samsung plasma paid 1899.00 before tax. That was back in 2011. So umm at my age 63, I don't want to be like on my dying bed going, man I should've gotten that Sony 65" Master Series OLED. Can't take it with you the money that is, I'm gonna enjoy the ride bro!

 

[panteragstk]

I know huh, my Son has Sony's Master Series 77" OLED. Gorgeous picture! When I come home and watch my LED full array backlit 55" I'm like this . Either a LG or Sony OLED will be in my setup before this year ends. My first choice is a Sony 65" Master Series, but the price is umm 3k so before the years up.

That's how I feel when I watch something in the theater. The 11 yo PJ just can't compete.