Mikado463

Mikado463

Audioholic Spartan
,my first two were Moderna and I'll stay with it for my booster when I'm eligible in 2 weeks. No arm soreness the first two time, just kept the arm moving around as much as possible after the shots and all was good. Funny thing is I did have some shoulder ache after my Shingles shot.
 
Cos

Cos

Audioholic Samurai
1st two Pfizer. Booster Pfizer. Increased tinnitus in my left ear (I have very mild to almost not there) depends on salt and cafeene intake. It went away after two weeks. This only happened after the first shot. Second shot, lasted about a day, booster, no effect.

I will state that I had a complete hearing test, and Doc says I have the hearing of an 18yr old in the upper level in every frequency range tested. I think they only tested to 15k, would have to look
 
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Bruce53

Full Audioholic
Moderna booster 2 days ago. Had minimal soreness in arm and , yesterday only, slight temperature elevation 100.1°. Both of these Sx are gone today.
 
Out-Of-Phase

Out-Of-Phase

Audioholic General
I get my Moderna Booster on Friday, November 12th.

That way I'll have the whole weekend to recover.
 
little wing

little wing

Audioholic General
I had the moderna vaccine back in April. I don't fall into the CDC guidelines for having a booster yet. But I'm debating it. It's been 6 months since my vaccine.
 
davidscott

davidscott

Audioholic Spartan
Publix in Florida is taking online appointments. I went in and was the only one there the pharmacist said they only schedule 1 every 15 minutes so no worries.
 
NINaudio

NINaudio

Audioholic Samurai
I had my Pfizer booster on Saturday. Basically the same reaction as to the second dose. A little sore at the injection site for 36 hours or so, and some extra muscle soreness in the neck/shoulders on top of the normal amount I have in that area
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
I'm going to get my booster this Friday will be Pfizer. Let you know if I have any symptoms
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
I'm going to get my booster this Friday will be Pfizer. Let you know if I have any symptoms
Anything to report?

I'm not eligible for the booster, but seeing articles like this one makes me wish I could get a booster:

>>>Study shows dramatic decline in effectiveness of all three COVID-19 vaccines over time<<<


From the science paper:

>>>Abstract
We report SARS-CoV-2 vaccine effectiveness against infection (VE-I) and death (VE-D) by vaccine type (n = 780,225) in the Veterans Health Administration, covering 2.7% of the U.S. population. From February to October 2021, VE-I declined from 87.9% to 48.1%, and the decline was greatest for the Janssen vaccine resulting in a VE-I of 13.1%. Although breakthrough infection increased risk of death, vaccination remained protective against death in persons who became infected during the Delta surge. From July to October 2021, VE-D for age 65 years was 73.0% for Janssen, 81.5% for Moderna, and 84.3% for Pfizer-BioNTech; VE-D for age ≥65 years was 52.2% for Janssen, 75.5% for Moderna, and 70.1% for Pfizer-BioNTech. Findings support continued efforts to increase vaccination, booster campaigns, and multiple, additional layers of protection against infection. . . .

This phenomenon has been most comprehensively monitored in Israel, where high levels of transmission of the Delta variant led to a resurgent outbreak in mid-June 2021, despite a successful nationwide campaign to vaccinate the population. Israel authorized boosters of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine for adults age ≥ 60 years in July 2021 and extended this authorization to adults age ≥ 50 years in August 2021. Rates of infection and severe illness subsequently declined in those who received a booster.<<< (internal citations omitted)

Edit: added paragraph discussing effectiveness of boosters in Israel.

 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
Anything to report?

I'm not eligible for the booster, but seeing articles like this one makes me wish I could get a booster:

>>>Study shows dramatic decline in effectiveness of all three COVID-19 vaccines over time<<<


From the science paper:

>>>Abstract
We report SARS-CoV-2 vaccine effectiveness against infection (VE-I) and death (VE-D) by vaccine type (n = 780,225) in the Veterans Health Administration, covering 2.7% of the U.S. population. From February to October 2021, VE-I declined from 87.9% to 48.1%, and the decline was greatest for the Janssen vaccine resulting in a VE-I of 13.1%. Although breakthrough infection increased risk of death, vaccination remained protective against death in persons who became infected during the Delta surge. From July to October 2021, VE-D for age 65 years was 73.0% for Janssen, 81.5% for Moderna, and 84.3% for Pfizer-BioNTech; VE-D for age ≥65 years was 52.2% for Janssen, 75.5% for Moderna, and 70.1% for Pfizer-BioNTech. Findings support continued efforts to increase vaccination, booster campaigns, and multiple, additional layers of protection against infection. . . .

This phenomenon has been most comprehensively monitored in Israel, where high levels of transmission of the Delta variant led to a resurgent outbreak in mid-June 2021, despite a successful nationwide campaign to vaccinate the population. Israel authorized boosters of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine for adults age ≥ 60 years in July 2021 and extended this authorization to adults age ≥ 50 years in August 2021. Rates of infection and severe illness subsequently declined in those who received a booster.<<< (internal citations omitted)

Edit: added paragraph discussing effectiveness of boosters in Israel.

I asked the fellas on the regular covid thread for advice since I just had my flu vaccine on Wednesday and some of them who'd gotten there's waited for a week or 2 between each one so if any side effects were present they'd know what was causing it so I'm going to wait till next Thursday

I'll post back on here after I do
 
cpp

cpp

Audioholic Ninja
On the wacky world of COVID. This was announced today in Denver.

"
DENVER – Two hyenas at the Denver Zoo have tested positive for the coronavirus, the first confirmed cases among the animals worldwide, a national veterinary lab announced Friday.

Samples from a variety of animals at the zoo, including the spotted hyenas, were tested after several lions at the facility became ill, according to the National Veterinary Services Laboratories. The hyena samples tested presumptive positive at a lab at Colorado State University, and the cases were confirmed by the national lab.

In addition to the two hyenas, 11 lions and two tigers at the zoo tested positive for the virus.

“Hyenas are famously tough, resilient animals that are known to be highly tolerant to anthrax, rabies and distemper. They are otherwise healthy and expected to make a full recovery,” the zoo said in a statement.
 
davidscott

davidscott

Audioholic Spartan
On the wacky world of COVID. This was announced today in Denver.

"
DENVER – Two hyenas at the Denver Zoo have tested positive for the coronavirus, the first confirmed cases among the animals worldwide, a national veterinary lab announced Friday.

Samples from a variety of animals at the zoo, including the spotted hyenas, were tested after several lions at the facility became ill, according to the National Veterinary Services Laboratories. The hyena samples tested presumptive positive at a lab at Colorado State University, and the cases were confirmed by the national lab.

In addition to the two hyenas, 11 lions and two tigers at the zoo tested positive for the virus.

“Hyenas are famously tough, resilient animals that are known to be highly tolerant to anthrax, rabies and distemper. They are otherwise healthy and expected to make a full recovery,” the zoo said in a statement.
Wow who new? I wonder if animals in the wild away from humans are getting infected.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
I would think if there is no human contact and in the wild, I doubt they would catch it.
That zoo example had to have had human to animal transfer. Would not be the first.
 
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Danzilla31

Audioholic Spartan
Took my booster today Pfizer will keep you guys updated if any issues come up so far nothing
 
Out-Of-Phase

Out-Of-Phase

Audioholic General
Got my Moderna booster shot 1 week ago today. Felt some symptoms after about 24 hours, but overall, the symptoms were light.
 
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Hetfield

Audioholic Samurai
Just made my appointment for December 2nd. I don't have any worries.

Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using Tapatalk
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
I got my Moderna chaser yesterday (1st 2 shots were Pfizer). My shoulder is sore and I had an ever so slight headache last night. I’m actually not sure if the headache was due to the vaccine (I get mild headaches from time to time)
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
I've read a number of posts from others who seem to despair over the repeated waves of Covid-19, or complain about the changing recommendations about vaccination doses.

I think it's time to step back in time for a longer view at vaccinations. Let's look at measles vaccines. The original measles vaccine was first approved by the FDA back in 1963. It was said "Before the widespread use of a vaccine against measles, its incidence was so high that infection with measles was felt to be 'as inevitable as death and taxes'." This quote, as well as the other statements I quote below all come from the Wikipedia page on the MMR vaccine.
Following introduction of the vaccine in 1963, reported cases of measles in the United States fell from hundreds of thousands to tens of thousands per year. Increasing use of the vaccine following outbreaks in 1971 and 1977 brought this down to thousands of cases per year in the 1980s. An outbreak of almost 30,000 cases in 1990 led to a renewed push for vaccination and the addition of a second dose of the vaccine to the recommended schedule. Fewer than 200 cases have been reported each year between 1997 and 2013, and the disease is no longer considered endemic.
The benefit of measles vaccination in preventing illness, disability, and death has been well documented. The first 20 years of licensed measles vaccination in the U.S. prevented an estimated 52 million cases of the disease, 17,400 cases of intellectual disability, and 5,200 deaths.
As you can see in the graph, measles cases dropped dramatically after the 1963 introduction of the vaccine. If you look closer at the horizontal axis, this drop didn't occur all at once – it took over 5 years.

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And even after 1968, there were several waves of measles breakouts. As a result of the breakout in 1989-90, a second dose was adopted as standard.

During the next years after 1963, vaccines against mumps and rubella were also developed. By 1971, these vaccines were combined into one single shot, the MMR vaccine. It's development was not trivial. It took a major effort, led by Maurice Hilleman, who deserves recognition for his efforts at developing over 40 different vaccines, 8 of which are still in use today.

Over the years, the original measles vaccine went through a number of changes and developments that were aimed at achieving better immunization, and greater stability of the vaccine. I won't go into details, but some of them allowed long term storage without requiring expensive low temperature freezers. The second version of the combined MMR vaccine was freeze-dried (lyophilized) and contained 'live' viruses. It's still in use now. Before injection it gets reconstituted with a solvent provided. This sounds simple (Just like instant coffee!), but it's successful development actually was difficult and required a major effort to get it right. Early efforts at freeze drying resulted in 'dead' viruses, literally broken up by freezing & drying. There were ineffective vaccines.

My point is this – the various Covid-19 vaccines have been in use for less than a year. We should be comparing it to the slower development of the measles vaccines (in their various forms). We can see that we are expecting too much from what is clearly only the first round of vaccines against Covid-19. These first round vaccines have worked far better than anyone in the vaccine business ever hoped for, but it's clear there's still room for improvement.
 
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