Fires in the Pacific NW

[highfigh]

Who else can smell the smoke, all day, every day?

Milwaukee, WI

 

[lovinthehd]

We're mostly on the eastern side of the state. so that you're getting more of it than we do. I guess like the republicans we need more "raking"? Good thing your rain still is adequate is a good thing....

 

[Out-Of-Phase]

AirNow Fire and Smoke Map

This map shows fine particle pollution (PM2.5) from wildfires and other sources. It provides a public resource of information to best prepare and manage wildfire season. Developed in a joint partnership between the EPA and USFS.

fire.airnow.gov

 

[TLS Guy]

It has been unpleasantly smoky in the Twin Cites for several weeks now. The smoke is mainly from the Canadian fires, especially Manitoba and Ontario. The Forest Service have done a good job stopping the fires at the border, but the Boundary Waters Canoe area have been evacuated for some days. We are also getting smoke from the US fires out west.

We had a respite from smoke for quite a period of time today, but the wind changed, and it was back to smoke by late afternoon.

We have had 80 or so fires in Minnesota so far this season, all extinguished I'm glad to say.

I have to say I'm glad I'm not living in the Paul Bunyan Forest on Lake Benedict anymore. The new owners tell me you could not see across the lake many days this week.
We had the first ever purple air quality alert this week in Minnesota.

I'm getting increasingly pessimistic we can reverse climate change.

In the last 10 days there have been catastrophic floods, in Germany, Belgium, Holland and London. The London tube system flooded just before the German floods, and much more severely today. This has never happened before in the 170 year history of the tube. There has been severe street flooding in London in places where it has not been seen before. According to the BBC parts of London got a months rain in two hours. Belgium has also had another round of flooding today apparently.

Arizona and Colorado have seen flooding this week. Parts if India and central China have also had catastrophic floods this past week.

This at the same time the US has a severe mid western drought.

It seems to me we are reaching some type of tipping point. I'm getting a bad feeling about it all.

 

[GO-NAD!]

It has been unpleasantly smoky in the Twin Cites for several weeks now. The smoke is mainly from the Canadian fires, especially Manitoba and Ontario. The Forest Service have done a good job stopping the fires at the border, but the Boundary Waters Canoe area have been evacuated for some days. We are also getting smoke from the US fires out west.

We had a respite from smoke for quite a period of time today, but the wind changed, and it was back to smoke by late afternoon.

We have had 80 or so fires in Minnesota so far this season, all extinguished I'm glad to say.

I have to say I'm glad I'm not living in the Paul Bunyan Forest on Lake Benedict anymore. The new owners tell me you could not see across the lake many days this week.
We had the first ever purple air quality alert this week in Minnesota.

I'm getting increasingly pessimistic we can reverse climate change.

In the last 10 days there have been catastrophic floods, in Germany, Belgium, Holland and London. The London tube system flooded just before the German floods, and much more severely today. This has never happened before in the 170 year history of the tube. There has been severe street flooding in London in places where it has not been seen before. According to the BBC parts of London got a months rain in two hours. Belgium has also had another round of flooding today apparently.

Arizona and Colorado have seen flooding this week. Parts if India and central China have also had catastrophic floods this past week.

This at the same time the US has a severe mid western drought.

It seems to me we are reaching some type of tipping point. I'm getting a bad feeling about it all.

This summer has become a story of weather extremes. If you aren't experiencing a blistering drought, you're getting rain of biblical proportions. That said, there are areas of relatively decent weather. We're getting above average rainfall, but not to the extent that it's causing flooding. I'll take this over what British Columbia is getting.

And, yes Doc, I am also becoming quite pessimistic about the outlook for our climate.

 

[lovinthehd]

I'm extremely pessimistic about the conservatives who keep saying this is due other reasons than man's influence and their hope that someone will magically save their ass and their investments in old tech simultaneously....

 

[TankTop5]

I'm extremely pessimistic about the conservatives who keep saying this is due other reasons than man's influence and their hope that someone will magically save their ass and their investments in old tech simultaneously....

Sorry to break it to you but this was caused by a lightning strike and was able to grow so quickly due to poor forestry management under liberal policies for decades. That aside I used to live at the base of Mount Diablo in Clayton CA. Mount Diablo was used for surveyors and map makers in the 1800’s due to its location and view. These people kept great journals but regularly complained about visibility due to smoke from wildfires.

The Pacific Northwest has always had forest fires, this isn’t global warming, this is Mother Nature. Some sane forestry policies could help a little.

 

[lovinthehd]

Sorry to break it to you but this was caused by a lightning strike and was able to grow so quickly due to poor forestry management under liberal policies for decades. That aside I used to live at the base of Mount Diablo in Clayton CA. Mount Diablo was used for surveyors and map makers in the 1800’s due to its location and view. These people kept great journals but regularly complained about visibility due to smoke from wildfires.

The Pacific Northwest has always had forest fires, this isn’t global warming, this is Mother Nature. Some sane forestry policies could help a little.

Yes, the forests were in the past managed with fire by the native americans particularly as well as wildfire....but due to people living in the forests and current forest management (which has occasional thinning projects that often fall far short of dealing with our "stick" forests due poor management for decades since before "liberal" policies)....altho just cutting them completely down for cheap timber could be a solution in a sense, albeit a poor solution. I've been on Diablo when a fire was ripping thru the brush!