Help with hometheater set up in Basement

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mrayes

Audiophyte
Hi,

New to the forum here so would appreciate help with home theater setup. We are about to start working on finishing our basement and I am looking for help in choosing a setup. It will be an open space through out without a wall behind the seating area. The TV living area will measure around 17 feet X 18 feet and ceiling about 8 feet. I am budgeting up to 7k including speakers and receiver. The TV will be either an 85 or 95 inch wall mounted. The sound system will be used mostly for movies but also want to be able to enjoy music. Lastly, the receiver would need to also support 2 speakers for the backyard.
Thanks
 
MalVeauX

MalVeauX

Senior Audioholic
Hi,

Do you already have anything? Any speakers?
Do you have any preferences to any speakers or lines?
Are you all about that bass or do you just want something netural? Do you like it bright or not?
How loud do you listen typically?
What do you think your listening distance is going to be from your speakers?
One row of seating or more?
Do you want atmos or not?

I would break this budget down into the following, not knowing answers to the above yet:

$1.5k towards AVR (7.2 to 9.2 processing channels, with zone 2)
$2k towards two subs
$2.5k towards left, right and center mains
$1k towards surrounds & backyard pair of speakers

Very best,
 
M

mrayes

Audiophyte
I have not bought anything yet and just started looking.
I prefer neutral
I might crank it up depending on the mood but not too loud usually
Would like to have atmos, this might help
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}Fear_Inoculum{

Senior Audioholic
Does that 7k include the cost for your TV, or is that just for audio equipment? Have you considered a projector?
 
MalVeauX

MalVeauX

Senior Audioholic
Hi,

AVR:


Mains:




Subs:


Very best,
 
M

mrayes

Audiophyte
I have not fully decided on projector vs tv, but i do like to watch sports and worry about that with the projector
 
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Senior Audioholic
M

mrayes

Audiophyte
Have read a bunch about TV vs projector, leaning towards TV for black level
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
In your size room I'd probably consider 5.1.4 setup (.1 doesn't mean just one sub, tho :) ). How much light in this room? Speakers in a larger room I'd prefer larger/tower/subs speakers but think bookshelves/subs could do quite well in there.
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
For speakers in that budget, I would be looking at a Paradigm Premiers 800F and 500C setup. Excellent linearity and good dynamic range. You might also look at an Arendal front-stage; a 1723 front stage would be a knock-out speaker system. If you want very good speakers that aren't quite as expensive, look at some Monoprice Monolith speakers, specifically, the 365c center and the THX-460T towers. I would skip the power sound audio speakers, and I think they are being recommended by people who have never heard them in person. For subs, a dual Hsu VTF-3 mk5 system would be an excellent choice.

Given this is an open room, I would go for a TV over a projector. Light control seems like it would be more difficult in an open room. Although if you can ensure good light control, I would go for a projector, but that means being able to completely shut down all ambient light when you want to watch something.

As for surround channels, that is tricky to do in an open room. Personally, depending on your situation I would just use some in-ceiling speakers for a 5.1 or 7.1 system if you can't get acoustic symmetry in your room.

For a receiver, I would be looking at Denon, Marantz, or Yamaha. Beggers can't be choosers, and the AVR market is pretty barren right now since no one can get any stock. You will just have to grab whatever you can get.
 
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}Fear_Inoculum{

Senior Audioholic
For speakers in that budget, I would be looking at a Paradigm Premiers 800F and 500C setup. Excellent linearity and good dynamic range. You might also look at an Arendal front-stage; a 1723 front stage would be a knock-out speaker system. If you want very good speakers that aren't quite as expensive, look at some Monoprice Monolith speakers, specifically, the 365c center and the THX-460T towers. I would skip the power sound audio speakers, and I think they are being recommended by people who have never heard them in person. For subs, a dual Hsu VTF-3 mk5 system would be an excellent choice.

Given this is an open room, I would go for a TV over a projector. Light control seems like it would be more difficult in an open room. Although if you can ensure good light control, I would go for a projector, but that means being able to completely shut down all ambient light when you want to watch something.

As for surround channels, that is tricky to do in an open room. Personally, depending on your situation I would just use some in-ceiling speakers for a 5.1 or 7.1 system if you can't get acoustic symmetry in your room.

For a receiver, I would be looking at Denon, Marantz, or Yamaha. Beggers can't be choosers, and the AVR market is pretty barren right now since no one can get any stock. You will just have to grab whatever you can get.
+1 for the Paradigms. I literally (about 4 hours ago) ordered the 800F towers and went slightly higher with the 600C Center channel speaker. Can't wait for them to arrive.
 
M

mrayes

Audiophyte
The egress window is right there next to the TV, I guess i can control that to a good degree
I am open to using ceiling speakers, which ones would you recommend?
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
The egress window is right there next to the TV, I guess i can control that to a good degree
I am open to using ceiling speakers, which ones would you recommend?
I'm not an expert in -in-ceiling speakers, but RSL is a reliably good manufacturer, and they have the C34SE speakers. The Revel C263 is probably OK. Focal, Monitor Audio, Elac, and Definitive Technology all look to have sensibly designed in-ceiling speakers.
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
What about rear speaker with stands?
If you can make that work, it would be good. But you will want a solution to deal with cables in an open room. You might look at those cable floor covers that help prevent them from becoming tripping hazards.
 
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