Budget 4K receiver

[TomMage]

Looking to get a 4K receiver. As cheap as possible, but still decent. My criteria is:

At least 6 HDMI inputs, including one on the front of the receiver, the one on the front counts as one of the 6.
At least one component input.
At least one composite input. Would be very nice if one on the back and one on the front. Mostly for older game systems, possibly VCR.
At least 2 optical audio inputs.
7.1/7.2, I want to have 7 speakers and a powered sub.
Some of what I guess is considered "newer" tech, HDCP 2.2 (is that the latest?), Atmos, UHD, HDR10+, Dolby Vision, maybe DTS?
Enough power to drive full sized speakers, Bose 901, large Advents, Cerwin Vega floor standing. Not crazy high but enough.

Right now am using Onkyo HT-RC260, not 4K. 4K devices I will be using (though very little content) are 3 Tivos, 2 Edge, 1 Bolt. Possibly a 4K bluray player, eventually. And other 1080P devices. And some with composite and/or component output only, no HDMI. The Onkyo supports "True HD 7.1 audio", would be nice if new receiver supports same or similar. Right now the Tivos with 4K are hooked up direct to the TV inputs and use optical out to receiver for audio. Which is not great I think, for the audio.

So any recommendations? Lot of criteria I know. Would be nice to stay under $400 if that is possible for a receiver with the features I am looking for. Thanks, hopefully someone knows off hand, a lot of what a cursory search showed are 5.1 only and/or not enough HDMI inputs. And I know next to nothing about Atmos, HDR, UHD etc etc. Am pretty sure I need HDCP 2.2 though, and would be good if all inputs are 2.2, think I've read some inputs can be 2.2 and some not on the same receiver (or maybe that was TV inputs?)

 

[Trebdp83]

A receiver that has the inputs you require and can also convert them and output them via HDMI are rare and expensive these days. Unfortunately, there is nothing new at $400 dollars that has those kinds of inputs and the ability to convert them.

 

[Gmoney]

@TomMage, You next mission is to Seek out a wise one! his name is ADTG aka @AcuDefTechGuy aka "Thor" he has helped many "Padawans" achieve the level of Jedi. Seek him out! But make No mistake "He No Jedi Master" But the force is strong with him..sorry couldn't help myself. but really get with him Andrew he is a dealer and has saved many on AH money inbox message him.

 

[TomMage]

A receiver that has the inputs you require and can also convert them and output them via HDMI are rare and expensive these days. Unfortunately, there is nothing new at $400 dollars that has those kinds of inputs and the ability to convert them.

How about without the composite and component? But everything else (MAYBE no optical). My current TV does have one component (can be used as composite too, one or the other). Would not be as convenient as having on receiver (and when I get new TV eventually may not have at all) but I do want a 4K receiver. Oh, the non HDMI inputs do not need to be converted if that matters (unless you mean converted to the point where they can be output through HDMI). Thanks.

 

[Trebdp83]

You know, with so many dropping the HDMI input in the front of the unit as well these days, I think the cheapest new option with all of the inputs needed is the Marantz 5014 at about a thousand bucks. Now, if you can live without composite and component inputs and can even live without the HDMI input in the front of the unit, the Yamaha TSR-700 can be had at Costco for 400 bucks or less if on sale.

 

[TomMage]

@TomMage, You next mission is to Seek out a wise one! his name is ADTG aka @AcuDefTechGuy aka "Thor" he has helped many "Padawans" achieve the level of Jedi. Seek him out! But make No mistake "He No Jedi Master" But the force is strong with him..sorry couldn't help myself. but really get with him Andrew he is a dealer and has saved many on AH money inbox message him.

Hmm, I'm more of a Star Trek guy than Star Wars (Padawans?) but I'll check him out Thor I can relate to a bit (I like Marvel), however Thor IS a bit "weaker" than me, took his hammer from him the other day and bopped him on the head with it.............

 

[Trebdp83]

"In space, all warriors are cold warriors."

 

[TomMage]

You know, with so many dropping the HDMI input in the front of the unit as well these days, I think the cheapest new option with all of the inputs needed is the Marantz 5014 at about a thousand bucks. Now, if you can live without composite and component inputs and can even live without the HDMI input in the front of the unit, the Yamaha TSR-700 can be had at Costco for 400 bucks or less if on sale.

Thanks, I will take a look at that. Kinda looking like one or the other (4K or something with component/composite which I already have). The HDMI port on the front is really nice though as many devices I only hook up occasionally, like some game systems, Bluray players, a desktop computer etc.

 

[TomMage]

"In space, all warriors are cold warriors."

Not bad. The original TV series my favorite. Though the quote from a movie it was one of the movies with the original cast

 

[Trebdp83]

"Go. Or stay, but do it because it is what you wish to do!"

 

[TomMage]

"Go. Or stay, but do it because it is what you wish to do!"

Wow, do you just pull these off the top of your head? Yeah, a great episode from the original series. When I had a better memory I'd swap some quotes with ya......... How about the one something like "maybe we should have gathered a few laurel leaves?" Or maybe not (gathering the leaves), I'm not a big fan of arrogant so called powerful beings (like Apollo in that episode). Or anyone/anything really, all are equal, can only do what you can do, regardless of knowledge/power/abilities.

 

[Trebdp83]

Some stuff just sticks in my head. I need to watch more of the original series as the Space Seed episode is the one I've seen the most and sticks out to me. I've watched the movies many more times than the shows. "Don't believe them, don't trust them!" "They're dying." "Let them die! Has it occurred to you that this crew is due to stand down in three months? We've done our bit for King and Country. You should have trusted me."

 

[Trebdp83]

I do have a few questions about your setup. Which model TV are you using in your system? Are you using it for all of your streaming services? How did you come into three TiVos? I've got two of them but currently only one hooked up.

 

[Pogre]

"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life."

Unfortunately you're asking for steak on a burger budget with all of the different input/outputs you want.

 

[TomMage]

I do have a few questions about your setup. Which model TV are you using in your system? Are you using it for all of your streaming services? How did you come into three TiVos? I've got two of them but currently only one hooked up.

It's a cheap Vizio 70", I think E70 F3 or E3. I actually have about 15 Tivos (maybe more), they are a hobby. 6 hooked up. Like to play with them, upgrade drives etc. And like to record entire series of some classic shows, can take years to get them all. The 3 Tivos I mention are the so called 4K capable. No 4K content for recording, cable or OTA. I rarely stream, mostly record. I have a few 4K movies on Vudu. Might get more once I get 4K receiver. Wonder if there will be any 4K OTA when ATSC 3 becomes standard, if it ever does. Cable, well they are going backwards, everything now compressed 720P at best, 1 hour recording about 2 GB, used to be 6-10GB when MPEG2 for main networks.

 

[MDK210]

Why not go to Crutchfield and look for yourself? Would take less time than what you spent writing the post.

 

[TomMage]

"It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life."

Unfortunately you're asking for steak on a burger budget with all of the different input/outputs you want.

First quote so true. It's almost like the more careful you try to be the more chance something will go wrong. Almost like something out there does it on purpose.......................

Yeah on receiver. Will probably have to forget about composite component at minimum. Still would like an HDMI input on front though, use that all the time.

 

[TomMage]

Why not go to Crutchfield and look for yourself? Would take less time than what you spent writing the post.

Ah, well there are SO MANY 4K receivers and much I don't understand about 4K. So thought someone here might know what I need feature wise and some models that have them. Already some good ideas

 

[Trebdp83]

Wow, lifetime service on all of the TiVos? Which model 4K player? Is that a Vizio TV with built in apps or do you gave to cast to it from a device?

 

[TomMage]

Wow, lifetime service on all of the TiVos? Which model 4K player? Is that a Vizio TV with built in apps or do you gave to cast to it from a device?

Yeah, lifetime on all The Edge and Bolt are the only 4K capable if you can call it that. I have no actual 4K player at all, might get a 4K Bluray though with streaming 4K discs kind of becoming obsolete. TV does have apps but I don't use them, because of warranty sign up they have all my personal info. So would be sharing with Vizio and Google I believe. Tivo has personal info also. But I'm going to be using my Tivos no matter what. So what little streaming I do I do through the Tivos. Today's world, almost everything is mining and selling personal info, IMO. I will guess most people with cell phones are logged in to 5-10 or more apps at all times, sharing/selling info. Heck I have one I use for emergencies, many "apps" cannot even find the "logout" command, they WANT you logged in all the time. Windows 10, they want you logged in to Microsoft account at all times too (I do not).