My next upgrade

[Trunksleo]

Hi, i need an advice for my next (and last) upgrade.
My setup is
Marantz 5012
Yamaha rs700 (connected the front of the marantz)
Kef q350
Klipsch rc62ii
Klipsch r10sw
Klipsch quintet(pair as surrounds)

I will receive some money and i dont know to make an upgrade on the kef or the yamaha.

If i make an upgrade of the yamaha, for ex one option is a marantz pm8006. So if i make this upgrade its too much for the kef?
If i make the upgrade for the kef, for ex a paragdim signature 2 2v. This upgrade its too much for the yamaha?

From this options upgrade for kef

Paragdim signature 2 2v
Polk lsim 703
Revel 105

This options for the yamaha

Marantz 8006
Marantz 7004
Cambridge audio 740a
Arcam sa10
Lumin m1

This one i lost ht bypass
Nad 368+nad
Cambridge 60/80

I want to make an upgrade for stereo music for my setup. If i make an upgrade i want a bookshelf that dont depends of the subwoofer. I want a 2.0

Thanks for the advices.

 

[ryanosaur]

What's your budget?
Where are you located?

Depending on your budget, you can do better for your Mains and greatly improve sound quality there. Speakers are SQ, and then their interaction with your room. Electronics will not get you better sound.

 

[Trunksleo]

What's your budget?
Where are you located?

Depending on your budget, you can do better for your Mains and greatly improve sound quality there. Speakers are SQ, and then their interaction with your room. Electronics will not get you better sound.

I have 2k but im from Argentina so thats why i put that options because the price are not the same.

 

[zieglj01]

Revel and Polk LSIM would be good choices for me ... I am a big fan of the Revel M105

 

[lovinthehd]

Why do you have a receiver connected to your avr? Why would you change electronics?

 

[ryanosaur]

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Hi, i need an advice for my next (and last) upgrade. My setup is Marantz 5012 Yamaha rs700 (connected the front of the marantz) Kef q350 Klipsch rc62ii Klipsch r10sw Klipsch quintet(pair as surrounds) I will receive some money and i dont know to make an upgrade on the kef or the yamaha. If i...

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[Trunksleo]

Why do you have a receiver connected to your avr? Why would you change electronics?

The yamaha its connected to marantz and the fronts out from yamaha

Revel and Polk LSIM would be good choices for me ... I am a big fan of the Revel M105

Thanks.

I forget to say that the room its 10x10ft.

 

[lovinthehd]

The yamaha its connected to marantz and the fronts out from yamaha Thanks.

I forget to say that the room its 10x10ft.

I got that part, the question is why the convoluted setup?

 

[Trunksleo]

I got that part, the question is why the convoluted setup?

Beacuse i have the kef q350 connected to the yamaha and marantz.
The marantz for the movies and the yamaha when i want to play music.
Thats why i ask for the marantz pm8006 that has ht bypass.

 

[trochetier]

Upgrade the speakers - they will make the most improvement for the bucks.

 

[lovinthehd]

Beacuse i have the kef q350 connected to the yamaha and marantz.
The marantz for the movies and the yamaha when i want to play music.
Thats why i ask for the marantz pm8006 that has ht bypass.

I don't understand why this is better, just convoluted and more expensive.

 

[Trunksleo]

I don't understand why this is better, just convoluted and more expensive.

No one said its better, i want to have the "2 worlds" multichannel and stereo and one pair of speakers. A receiver doesnt compare with an integrated amplifier for music and that why i want both.

 

[lovinthehd]

No one said its better, i want to have the "2 worlds" multichannel and stereo and one pair of speakers. A receiver doesnt compare with an integrated amplifier for music and that why i want both.

Nonsense. Integrated amp is just a receiver without a tuner and a lot less usefulness. 2ch people can be so weird....get better speakers, not different amps. But good luck with your bypass and all that nonsense....

 

[Trunksleo]

Nonsense. Integrated amp is just a receiver without a tuner and a lot less usefulness. 2ch people can be so weird....get better speakers, not different amps. But good luck with your bypass and all that nonsense....

And why dont you said that on the begining, and tell me directly recommended some bookshelf instead.

I asked which way do you take to make an upgrade, the bookshelf or integrated amplifier. Instead on be aggresive, You would have recommended a bookshelf and voila.

 

[lovinthehd]

And why dont you said that on the begining, and tell me directly recommended some bookshelf instead.

I asked which way do you take to make an upgrade, the bookshelf or integrated amplifier. Instead on be aggresive, You would have recommended a bookshelf and voila.

Aggresive? Not intentionally, it's just a discussion exploring your view of the electronics involved and your reasoning behind (which you didn't explain). There is a lot of audio bullshit out there of course, let alone the "last" upgrade ever. I do think you would be better off concentrating on things that matter, the speakers/subs and room. Your speakers have more room for improvement by far vs your electronics.

 

[Pogre]

And why dont you said that on the begining, and tell me directly recommended some bookshelf instead.

I asked which way do you take to make an upgrade, the bookshelf or integrated amplifier. Instead on be aggresive, You would have recommended a bookshelf and voila.

New speakers for sure. Revel make great speakers. A bookshelf that doesn't require a subwoofer is a tall order depending on your music. Do you not have a subwoofer?

No one said its better, i want to have the "2 worlds" multichannel and stereo and one pair of speakers. A receiver doesnt compare with an integrated amplifier for music and that why i want both.

Just use your multichannel avr. It's already the best of both worlds for music and ht. I'd repurpose your stereo amp for a second system or something. You really are just adding complexity. Speakers speakers speakers. That's the best upgrade path for better sound.

 

[ryanosaur]

Do you not have a subwoofer?

Big K, R-10. Meh.
But OP wants to keep his 2-channel "pure."

This wasn't a battle I'm in to fight for, though I agree.



(Perhaps just planting the seed of how significant a SQ improvement can be had with a better Sub... may someday sink in.)

(I hope that's not too subtle.)
*blushes

 

[Trunksleo]

New speakers for sure. Revel make great speakers. A bookshelf that doesn't require a subwoofer is a tall order depending on your music. Do you not have a subwoofer?

Just use your multichannel avr. It's already the best of both worlds for music and ht. I'd repurpose your stereo amp for a second system or something. You really are just adding complexity. Speakers speakers speakers. That's the best upgrade path for better sound.

The problem with the subwoofer also its that i want to disturb my Neighbors. And the place its small also, about 10x10ft. And i use pure direct on the marantz.

Aggresive? Not intentionally, it's just a discussion exploring your view of the electronics involved and your reasoning behind (which you didn't explain). There is a lot of audio bullshit out there of course, let alone the "last" upgrade ever. I do think you would be better off concentrating on things that matter, the speakers/subs and room. Your speakers have more room for improvement by far vs your electronics.

So just recommend me a pair a bookshelf and nothing else. I open to the advice from anyone thats come with really good intentions and polite to teach or tell me something thats its wrong with my setup. I ask where put the money nothing more.

Big K, R-10. Meh.
But OP wants to keep his 2-channel "pure."

This wasn't a battle I'm in to fight for, though I agree.



(Perhaps just planting the seed of how significant a SQ improvement can be had with a better Sub... may someday sink in.)

(I hope that's not too subtle.)
*blushes

What happend its that i dont have any intension to make an upgrade of a subwoofer, i know its not a really good subwoofer but for the movies works for me.

 

[lovinthehd]

A good sub would expand the usefulness of bookshelf speakers in any case, I wouldn't discount that (and your sub isn't a very good one, far better available). Hard to recommend speakers as that's a personal choice and have no idea how you even came up with those particular speakers (again, no explanation from you as to what's lacking in your current speakers and what you feel is better about each choice let alone other choices you've considered and why they're no longer under consideration). Have you heard any of them?

 

[Pogre]

The problem with the subwoofer also its that i want to disturb my Neighbors. And the place its small also, about 10x10ft. And i use pure direct on the marantz.
So just recommend me a pair a bookshelf and nothing else. I open to the advice from anyone thats come with really good intentions and polite to teach or tell me something thats its wrong with my setup. I ask where put the money nothing more. What happend its that i dont have any intension to make an upgrade of a subwoofer, i know its not a really good subwoofer but for the movies works for me.

Well you can always adjust your subwoofer.

When you say "a speaker that doesn't need a subwoofer" I'm thinking you want a full range speaker. A full range speaker playing low notes will still disturb the neighbors so I'm not sure exactly what it is that you're going for. What kind of music do you listen to?

One of the first things I'd do is just disconnect the Yamaha and take it out of the equation. Your Marantz is just fine for stereo music. As far as speakers, if you get speakers that are great with music they will also be great for home theater. So you can have the best of both worlds just using 1 set of speakers and 1 receiver. If possible I'd sell the Yamaha and put the money toward speakers! Or you could always set up a second system in another room.