From what I recall, AV123 had a lot of problems, but more in the later parts of its business life than the early. They had to move manufacturing a couple times because they werentpaying their factories. The MFW-15 had a boatload of reliability issues. There were also speakers that had cabinets that were improperly assembled. TLS Guy is right, but AV123 didn't start that way, it just ended that way.