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Brentlee24

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I run the AccuEQ setup on my Onkyo 585 and the results can't me right. L&R channels get 200 htz every time. And they are Polk signature s60s. It gives my two surrounds 50 htz and they are way smaller polk t50s......



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Leemix

Audioholic General
Not familiar with onkyo, but do they sound off or do they sound normal? (Are the speakers bi-ampable and you forgot the connectors or switch?)
Auto setup is often wrong about crossovers but usually the other way.


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Brentlee24

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Not familiar with onkyo, but do they sound off or do they sound normal? (Are the speakers bi-ampable and you forgot the connectors or switch?)
Auto setup is often wrong about crossovers but usually the other way.


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They sound decent. I can bi amp them and have, but currently they are not. I'll have to try it again. When I put their crossover to 80 it reduces my svs pb 1000 output alot and the whole thing sounds a little boomier I think

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Leemix

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Have you run the auto setup a few times and not just once?


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Brentlee24

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Have you run the auto setup a few times and not just once?


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Yeah. I get between 180 and 200 every time. At least since I added the pb1000 sub recently. I'm gonna recheck the wiring and maybe bi wire it again, but It seems like it's the receiver.

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Leemix

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Yeah. I get between 180 and 200 every time. At least since I added the pb1000 sub recently. I'm gonna recheck the wiring and maybe bi wire it again, but It seems like it's the receiver.

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Or something wrong with mic.
Have you tried moving the speakers a bit to see if still 200hz, could be a big null the auto setup reacts to.


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Brentlee24

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Or something wrong with mic.
Have you tried moving the speakers a bit to see if still 200hz, could be a big null the auto setup reacts to.


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Not really. Maybe a foot

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Trebdp83

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Just for kicks, swap the speakers' locations with the sub and hoop and run it again.
 
ski2xblack

ski2xblack

Audioholic Samurai
I'm gonna recheck the wiring and maybe bi wire it again,
You're missing the point. There is no benefit to bi-wiring, so please don't go on a useless snipe hunt doing that.

There IS a problem: your room correction software doesn't pick up the bass extension your mains are capable of. The speakers are either not producing it, hence the inquiries about having the jumpers in place, or the mic isn't picking it up (possibly due to a defective mic, or placement of the mic in a null mode when taking measurements). If it's a faulty mic, or wonky automagic software problems, you might have to bypass it and trust your ears.

Test the speakers full range, no subs. If the jumper is in place, and the speakers are fully functional, they should extend nice and deep. If they don't, you've identified the problem. If they do, continue your troubleshooting process for the next most likely culprit, which could be a measurement anomaly or even a faulty mic.

Can you adjust the crossover settings manually to override the automagic settings? If so, set the hp for the mains one octave above their f3 (with corresponding lpf and level for the sub) and give it a listen.

With your speakers so deeply corner loaded I would expect considerable reinforcement of lower frequencies, which typically tricks these automagic setup programs into setting the hpf too low, rather than too high, as in your case.
 
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Trebdp83

Audioholic Spartan
He can set it all manually. Check that the double bass feature is off and set your LPF to 120hz. He can adjust the LFE level for DD, DTS, DSD and multi channel in the Audio Adjust section. He can also adjust the sub volume using the quick menu button on the remote control without having to go into the level calibration in the main menus.
 
William Lemmerhirt

William Lemmerhirt

Audioholic Overlord
Or something wrong with mic.
Have you tried moving the speakers a bit to see if still 200hz, could be a big null the auto setup reacts to.


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This is a good point too. If it’s detecting a null as the f3 it would roll off accordingly.
 
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Brentlee24

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Well. Jumpers are good. Playing the sig s60s on two channel stereo with no sub sounds good. I switched the 60s to the surround and put the smaller t50s as fronts and ran the mic test. T50s as fronts got 40 htz. Sig s60s as surrounds got 50 htz. Moved them back and the 60s got 200 htz again.

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