subwoofer has low voices

[lpc]

when i put my ear to the subwoofer i can hear muffed male voices through the subwoofer during voice dialog ...i have run the setup....5.1 system

 

[shadyJ]

Sounds like the crossover frequency might be too high. Set the crossover frequency in the AVR to something lower than its present setting.

 

[thumprchgo]

A man’s voice can make sound at frequencies below a Sub’s crossover point of 80Hz. It’s entirely right, and probably correct. You should hear parts of their voices there.

 

[lovinthehd]

Altho if from your listening seat you can localize the voice to the sub, that's not good. Or is it just putting your ear next to it? Running setup on a 5.1 setup doesn't tell us much in any case (best to tell us just what you've got in terms of makes/models as well as just what you did for setup/current settings).

 

[Mikado463]

I agree with lovin and not only that but if you localize anything come directly from the sub at your listening position then that's not right also.

 

[ryanosaur]

when i put my ear to the subwoofer i can hear muffed male voices through the subwoofer

There should be a meme for this.

 

[William Lemmerhirt]

A man’s voice can make sound at frequencies below a Sub’s crossover point of 80Hz. It’s entirely right, and probably correct. You should hear parts of their voices there.

Mostly true. But what if he’s crossed at 120? Or 150 even. IMO, that’s too high, in general but sometimes little bookshelf speakers with very little extension need the sub crossed higher.
Be nice to know the rest of the gear.

 

[TLS Guy]

Of course you will hear male voices from a sub. the fundamentals of the male voice are 80 to 180 Hz. So if you crossover at 80 Hz and this will be a fourth order filter, then the male voice will not be 24 db down until 180 Hz, it won't be 36 db down and virtually inaudible until 240 Hz.

I think there is tremendous variation in peoples ability to localize subs. When subs are crossed over at 80 Hz, I can always tell where the damn things are. That of many reasons why I advise just gently supplementing speakers with subs and no definite crossover. I think that is because I have always favored as systems with as little time/phase disturbance as possible. I think as time goes by, the late Ted Jordan will be increasingly vindicated. This is especially true if we are going to improve speech intelligibility. Separating fundamentals from their harmonics in time is a bad thing. I'm increasingly convinced we are well down the wrong path. I have good reasons for not following it.

 

[lovinthehd]

Of course you will hear male voices from a sub. the fundamentals of the male voice are 80 to 180 Hz. So if you crossover at 80 Hz and this will be a fourth order filter, then the male voice will not be 24 db down until 180 Hz, it won't be 36 db down and virtually inaudible until 240 Hz.

I think there is tremendous variation in peoples ability to localize subs. When subs are crossed over at 80 Hz, I can always tell where the damn things are. That of many reasons why I advise just gently supplementing speakers with subs and no definite crossover. I think that is because I have always favored as systems with as little time/phase disturbance as possible. I think as time goes by, the late Ted Jordan will be increasingly vindicated. This is especially true if we are going to improve speech intelligibility. Separating fundamentals from their harmonics in time is a bad thing. I'm increasingly convinced we are well down the wrong path. I have good reasons for not following it.

Really, that's the best you've been able to do? You can localize multiple subs at 80hz or a single?

 

[Ponzio]

Beam me up Scotty!

 

[Teetertotter?]

I wonder if @lpc has a good AVR, LFE input to the subwoofer, and used the Auto speaker setup, if the voices went away. Like someone said, nice to know what AVR, Speakers, Subwoofer...etc. Might have a cable issue from AVR to subwoofer? I wonder what he found???

 

[flippo]

I agree that 80hz is not always the best cutoff (depends on your mains). I prefer to set mine at 60hz.