An inexpensive integrated amplifier with decent output capacity

[remomoreira]

Guys, I would appreciate the help of an experienced audiophile, since I am a layman on the subject.
I am looking for an inexpensive integrated amplifier to power my pair TA-Oscar Duas Vias 8 Inch Kevlar tower speakers from Tropic Audio (https://www.tropicaudio.com.br/torre-ta-oscar-duas-vias-8 -pol-kevlar-olive-green) and a Sony Subwoofer SA-WP16 (I intend to change this, soon).

I found this Marantz PM6006 (https://htclick.com.br/produto/amplificador-integrado-marantz-pm6006/), but I am intrigued by the low power capacity of these integrated amplifiers.

This PM6006, for example, delivers only 45 watts per channel (remember that my tower speakers accept up to 150 watts, as I told in the link above).

I add that my current receiver (Pionner VSX 534) delivers, according to its manual, 80 watts per channel, under the same conditions as this Marantz (with 8 ohm speakers, 20-20,000 Hz; total harmonic distortion of no more than 0.08% ), almost twice the power of this Marantz.

I am afraid to buy this Marantz and regret it because of this low power capacity, since with my current receiver I sometimes get close to the maximum volume level, in an environment of 10.5 square meters.

It should be noted that this integrated amplifier that I am looking for is for another environment, of 15 square meters, that I am setting up.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

https://www.tropicaudio.com.br/torre-ta-oscar-duas-vias-8-pol-kevlar-verde-oliva
have rated sensitivity of 93db, so pretty much anything more powerful than a matchbox could power these, but it really REALLY depends on how loud you like to listen. If you have to push your VSX534 PM6006 would be a step back.
I am beginning to suspect that you may be coming close to asking too much volume(loudness) from your speakers. Then you say you'll need a new amp for a bigger room, I assume you expect even more loudness.
If you need speakers to play for loud party level volumes, I'd suggest looking for new speakers rather than new amp.

 

[VMPS-TIII]

Here's the receivers I would suggest:

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The 3600 has great measurements provides EQ with Audyssey and Streaming with HEOS. It's hard to beat and hard to find. There are a limited number at $949.

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The next step down is the 2600. I would pay the extra for the 3600 but if its out of range this is an option at $649.

 

[remomoreira]

https://www.tropicaudio.com.br/torre-ta-oscar-duas-vias-8-pol-kevlar-verde-oliva
have rated sensitivity of 93db, so pretty much anything more powerful than a matchbox could power these, but it really REALLY depends on how loud you like to listen. If you have to push your VSX534 PM6006 would be a step back.
I am beginning to suspect that you may be coming close to asking too much volume(loudness) from your speakers. Then you say you'll need a new amp for a bigger room, I assume you expect even more loudness.
If you need speakers to play for loud party level volumes, I'd suggest looking for new speakers rather than new amp.

Thanks...
But I am, actually, setting up a NEW audio room, at my house in the mountains, with 15 square meters, where I intend to use the mentioned Tropic Audio Tower Speakers. That´s why I need to buy an integrated amplifier.
However, I will keep the set in my current house, with 10 square meters.
Got it now?

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Check out Yamaha S801.

 

[highfigh]

Check out Yamaha S801.

Or the 803.

 

[Verdinut]

Or the 803.

The A-S801 has a better power supply. Compare the power outputs between an 8 ohm and a 4 ohm load.

 

[John Parks]

The A-S801 has a better power supply. Compare the power outputs between an 8 ohm and a 4 ohm load.

Huh. I was under the (possibly mistaken) impression that the A-S801 and R-N803 shared the same amplifier internals. From the Yamaha website:
A-S801

R-N803

 

[lovinthehd]

More to an integrated amp than just power output. What sources would you use it with? Do you want bass management to incorporate a sub with?

 

[Verdinut]

Huh. I was under the (possibly mistaken) impression that the A-S801 and R-N803 shared the same amplifier internals. From the Yamaha website:
A-S801
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R-N803
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My mistake. Yesterday I thought I had seen a lower output at 4ohms than at 8 ohms somehow. Of course, I can't figure it out now.

As you say, they most likely share the same electronics.

 

[highfigh]

My mistake. Yesterday I thought I had seen a lower output at 4ohms than at 8 ohms somehow. Of course, I can't figure it out now.

As you say, they most likely share the same electronics.

Musta been havin' one of your spells, eh? I do that.

 

[highfigh]

More to an integrated amp than just power output. What sources would you use it with? Do you want bass management to incorporate a sub with?

I have an old integrated amp that was showing its age with intermittent audio because of dirty controls and a loose volume control. Not sure how that became loose, but once I cleaned the pots and switches & tightened the VC, it's fine. When it was really annoying me, I decided that it might be time to put it out of my misery, so I started looking into replacing it. NOTHING from any manufacturer had what I wanted- no MC phono section, not enough in/outs, no preamp output and the specs/performance weren't what my other integrated amps showed and did. I decided that the only way to get what I wanted was to find a preamp.

The market for what I want is just about dead, but not totally- if it was, the used market would be dead, too. At this point, I want to use the equipment, not service it.

It's tough being an audio dinosaur.

 

[PENG]

Thanks...
But I am, actually, setting up a NEW audio room, at my house in the mountains, with 15 square meters, where I intend to use the mentioned Tropic Audio Tower Speakers. That´s why I need to buy an integrated amplifier.
However, I will keep the set in my current house, with 10 square meters.
Got it now?

Why would you need an integrated amplifier, what do you need that you cannot get from an AVR such as the suggested AVR-X3600H, or even the AVR-X3500H if you can still find one? Any of those will be much more powerful and the PM6006.

AVRs are mass produced, that's why you get more value for the money, than integrated amps with similar specs.
Yes, the channels you won't be using would be just sitting there doing nothing, but they are there is you ever need them. Also as suggested, something like a Yamaha two channel receiver, will still be a better value than the PM6006 that is a very high profit margin product. Yamaha's A-S801 is also a high margin product, that share parts with their AVR cousins.