Playing Multichannel DSD / DSF over DLNA

[PENG]

Reportedly, my AV7702mkii supports MC DSD files, but I don't have any such files yet to say I've actually tried it.

So far I'm playing MC hi res via a Oppo spinner.

Of course, it is the M of the D&M so if D can do it, the M can do it. Again, the 2016 models can play MCH 5.1 DSD64 only, the 2017 model will do up to DSD128 even in MCH.

 

[lovinthehd]

I am sure you know only the original PS3 can rip SACD, right? There are other way to rip them but probably not all of them are legal.

I gathered as much from a previous post...

 

[sterling shoote]

Over all, I'd just like to be able to enjoy multi-channel audio downloads, as effortlessly as I can now download a stereo song from iTunes and listen to it wirelessly from my HT. It appears, however, that there is no way for me to do this. It's why I still buy multi-channel SACDs and consider equipment like the OPPO 205 to enjoy those SACDs. With multi-channel HT being so ubiquitous, I wonder why stereo only music still persists, that's to say, with most of us having a means to enjoy multi-channel music, why no multi-channel music today or means to deliver multi-channel music downloads? It seems, as we enjoy multi-channel movies today we could also enjoy multi-channel music from our HTs. BTW, I remember when Betamax and VHS were mono mediums. Apocalypse Now was my first stereo movie. The technology has come a long way since then for video; but, for music only, the technology, other than digital stereo, not so much.

 

[kcwilsonii]

I have a STR-DN1040 and it does not support DSD files

The newest Sony STR-DN1080 looks like it might support multichannel on USB files.
I could not find anything specifying the number of channels for files.

It does state in the 1080 manual that it supports native DSD playback

I have a another AVR unit, a Yamaha TSR-7850 and it is restricted to 2 channel playback of files also
Which seems strange for 7.2 system that is really new

 

[pcosmic]

I currently have a Serviio server setup on my PC, which feeds DSD (and PCM) files to my Yamaha RX-A660. 2ch DSF's are a breeze to listen to.

I recently encountered an iso file that has both stereo and Multichannel tracks. I used SACD_extract to extract the stereo DSF's in one directory and the Multichannel DSF's in another.

The stereo files play over DLNA. In the signal info screen, the info shows up properly as 2.0, DSD64.

However, the Multichannel files refuse to play at all. The receiver sees the file on the server, but I suspect, cannot decode them.

How do people on this forum listen to digital Multichannel DSD files through their receiver?

Most receivers (even flagship) can't play multichannel DSD files fed through USB drives, DLNA, etc. They can only play DSD stereo.

However, many CD/Blu-ray players do and they have a usb input to plug in your flash drives etc. For instance, I have many multichannel dsd files on a external drive that i play with my Yamaha BD-A1060 bluray/sacd player (usb input from external drive ---> BD-A1060--->hdmi input into a RX-A3080 receiver "straight" mode) Clean multichannel DSD playback!!

 

[lovinthehd]

Who cares about dsd files particularly, tho?

 

[pcosmic]

Who cares about dsd files particularly, tho?

If you can put up with the gargantuan file sizes, DSD sounds even "BETTER" than many studio master Flacs i have. Of course, it sounds better than red book cd or weakass mp3. If a cretin can't hear a difference between sacd/dsd and mp3, his speakers should be set on fire and his ass should be flogged on basic principle.

As for file sizes, i have a 12 TB drive. (Large file sizes? Let me have it mthrtruckers)

 

[Joe B]

Who cares about dsd files particularly, tho?

I think those who listen on headphone based systems with a headphone amp/DAC, or seperate DAC and headphone amp, are the primary target audience for DSD files. I know when I listen to SACD's or DSD files on a flash drive through my Oppo, it doesn't really make any difference at all. My Anthem AVR, because I am using the ARC room correction software, is converting the file to PCM at a bit and sample rate which the software processes at before it even gets to the D/A converter (I remember reading here at AH once what that was....32/?).

An even more important thing is buying DSD recordings that were recorded at the sample rate you are purchasing. Who cares if you get a DSD file that was actually produced from a 16 bit recording. As you can't add anything in the recording/playback chain that wasn't there in the first place (this excludes devices like Chord electronics M-Scaler), you need/want a file in the native format. Some companies do this. 'Chasing the Dragon', a small British label, records in multiple formats when they make a master. They have one setup recording DSD binaural, another recording DSD stereo, and another at a hi-res format. They do not convert files from one format to another, they record in each format at the same recording session (I can only imagine how much equipment is used and the space it takes up).

 

[lovinthehd]

I think those who listen on headphone based systems with a headphone amp/DAC, or seperate DAC and headphone amp, are the primary target audience for DSD files. I know when I listen to SACD's or DSD files on a flash drive through my Oppo, it doesn't really make any difference at all. My Anthem AVR, because I am using the ARC room correction software, is converting the file to PCM at a bit and sample rate which the software processes at before it even gets to the D/A converter (I remember reading here at AH once what that was....32/?).

An even more important thing is buying DSD recordings that were recorded at the sample rate you are purchasing. Who cares if you get a DSD file that was actually produced from a 16 bit recording. As you can't add anything in the recording/playback chain that wasn't there in the first place (this excludes devices like Chord electronics M-Scaler), you need/want a file in the native format. Some companies do this. 'Chasing the Dragon', a small British label, records in multiple formats when they make a master. They have one setup recording DSD binaural, another recording DSD stereo, and another at a hi-res format. They do not convert files from one format to another, they record in each format at the same recording session (I can only imagine how much equipment is used and the space it takes up).

I do have some SACD, for the multich tracks, and some made from dsd recordings (and some cds made from such as well). I don't find DSD to be a magic medium, tho, just largely an unnecessary one. I don't use headphones, either. YMMV.