2 channel Amp or Integrated Amp curiosity.

lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I'm ashamed of myself for not remembering that! Did you see there's a new one on Prime video? I keep meaning to watch it, but Jason Mewes is looking rough lately and Kevin Smith hasn't been quite the same since his heart attack. I mean, I love both those guys. I just want to remember them at the top of their game.
I haven't dipped into that one yet. I do like both as well but with Smith's motor mouth in real life, Silent Bob can be a relief.... :)
 
KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
Thanks. Seems ...I like to get beating up all the time.
I think much of the issue is the frustration factor you bring.
Those of us who have been around here for a while know you have a passion for sound and you have done plenty of listening and have progressed through some fine gear along the way.
Many of us have progressed through some form of bind test, or merely pulled out an older amp after the honeymoon with the new amp was over such that we were not so excited and thrilled with the new unit as those first few days of ownership.
I have read accounts from people who opened up their several year old amp and meticulously cleaned out any dust who swear that their system sounded better after that. This is simply human nature. If you spent the last 45 minutes putting tender loving care into your system, you are certain to perceive a difference because you just feel good about taking care of something that was bothering you (otherwise you would not have bothered to do anything). We are not machines that measure and report reality. We are creatures that experience and enjoy, (or not). How can you believe your perceptions are not influenced by excitement, anticipation, etc.?
If there is a new piece of gear that you have been anticipating for weeks or even months and you are setting it up today, isn't it reasonable that that excitement might be causing some extra pheromones or even adrenaline to be coursing through your body? After all, what is excitement if not a biochemical reaction?
So there you are with your new treasure and excited to play your favorite music. In such an alert state of listening, it is likely that you are more alert to subtleties of sound and will detect details that normally go unnoticed! I know I do!
I try to minimize the "human influences" by setting up instant and level matched comparisons. It does help. Certainly, my bio-chemical state has a hard time keeping up with the button under my finger and I can sometimes lose track of which is which. That can address (to an extent) factors such as clogged sinuses or state of alert listening; however, I still find that being able to see what the gear looks like influences my perception! I know this because I have done blind testing (unfortunately double blind was too difficult to accomplish) with very, very little interaction with the party setting it up (it would be double blind if they set it up and left while you did the evaluation). But these tests have proven to me that my sighted perception was very much influenced by knowing about what I was listening to.
There are some people who can do phenomenal things that would generally be considered inhuman (such as perfect pitch), and it is possible that you may somehow be able to genuinely bypass the human aspect of your existence that influences your perceptions. Unfortunately, it is so common for people to believe that they can that if someone actually did, they would be met with skepticism. If there were documented cases of people who can do this, we would be less quick to cry "BS", but as is, it seems very unlikely, and seems like you would need to be bereft of emotion (in the normal sense) to do so!
 
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Out-Of-Phase

Out-Of-Phase

Audioholic General
I would have probably worded the thread, "I have to spend $5K on an integrated amp. Which one would you buy? And don't tell me I can't dream!" :D

If you're looking at higher-end Integrated Amps, then I think it's Yamaha vs Luxman vs McIntosh.

They all look great and sound great.

If you already love the Yamaha AS1000s, then it's probably natural to also look at the higher-end Yamaha.

Yamaha A-S3200SL:


As to whether they are worth the money or sound better, that's just anyone's opinion, which may lead to some beating up. :D
Yamaha claims: "Unparalleled Musical Expression"

Unparalleled : having no equal or match, unique in kind or quality.

Wow. :eek:
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Yamaha claims: "Unparalleled Musical Expression"

Unparalleled : having no equal or match, unique in kind or quality.

Wow. :eek:
Marketing. :D

I don't bother reading any of that stuff. To me at this price point, it's just about eye candy for rich people.
 
ski2xblack

ski2xblack

Audioholic Samurai
I am not buying another amp.
Party pooper!
Just talking with fellow enthusiasts.
Some are more enthusiastic about music than kit. Worrying about which amp is subjectively most pleasing seems to have more to do with blind consumerism and marketing induced FOMO. It's better for your wallet for you to resist, and also resist the whimsical subjective reviews.

That's why I suggested the ACA (same as the one peng has), for the sake of your techno-curiosity. Compared to $5K amps, it's cheap thrills, and follows an unconventional approach (that some gear fetishists laud as the holy grail of amplification).

@PENG I am curious about your motivations to build the ACA. I can share my experience as well. Perhaps a discussion will help @ematthews connect the dots.
 
Mikado463

Mikado463

Audioholic Spartan
Marketing. :D

I don't bother reading any of that stuff. To me at this price point, it's just about eye candy for rich people.
Chevrolet - 'Heartbeat of America'
Volkswagen - 'Peoples Car'
CSX - 'How tomorrow moves'
and the list goes on......... nothing wrong with marketing, I've read plenty of it, doesn't mean I believed all of it
 
Out-Of-Phase

Out-Of-Phase

Audioholic General
Chevrolet - 'Heartbeat of America'
Volkswagen - 'Peoples Car'
CSX - 'How tomorrow moves'
and the list goes on......... nothing wrong with marketing, I've read plenty of it, doesn't mean I believed all of it
.....rewarding its listeners with a whole new zenith of sound quality.

Now there's one he believes.
 
CajunLB

CajunLB

Senior Audioholic
Chevrolet - 'Heartbeat of America'
Volkswagen - 'Peoples Car'
CSX - 'How tomorrow moves'
and the list goes on......... nothing wrong with marketing, I've read plenty of it, doesn't mean I believed all of it
Like a good neighbor SF is there. Yeah ok :rolleyes:
 
CajunLB

CajunLB

Senior Audioholic
Chevrolet - 'Heartbeat of America'
Volkswagen - 'Peoples Car'
CSX - 'How tomorrow moves'
and the list goes on......... nothing wrong with marketing, I've read plenty of it, doesn't mean I believed all of it
Like a good neighbor SF is there. Yeah ok :rolleyes:
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
Chevrolet - 'Heartbeat of America'
Volkswagen - 'Peoples Car'
CSX - 'How tomorrow moves'
and the list goes on......... nothing wrong with marketing, I've read plenty of it, doesn't mean I believed all of it
Lexus - The Pursuit of Perfection. Hells yeah! :D
 
John Parks

John Parks

Audioholic Samurai
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