XTZ spirit 11 + center speaker. What kind of amp?

[killbill13]

i have a marantz 5013

XTZ Spirit 11 floorstanding speaker - XTZ Sound in Balance

Perfect for home cinema and reproduction of music. The Spirit 11 stands out of its priceclass with its customized drivers and the high quality finish.

www.xtzsound.eu

XTZ Spirit 8 center speaker - XTZ Sound in Balance

With enormous power and dynamics, the Spirit 8 center speaker is capable to reproduce voices in a natural and accurate way.

www.xtzsound.eu

what kind of amplification i need for these? Marantz has port for end amplifier to add for power. But i dont know what.

i need to find out the cost. For this 3 things

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

It’s probably 4 ohms (4-8 nominal). XTZ recommend about 180W.

Actual power depends on whether you use it as full-range or with subs, how far you sit and how loud you listen.

The tweeter and midrange drivers won’t require much power, but the woofers will require a lot more power. So full-range will require more power.

Rule of thumb is to probably use at least 100 WPC and start with low volume. Then slowly increase volume. If the speakers sound great at the desired volume, then it’s probably okay.

Your AVR will probably work just fine.

But if you are buying an external amp anyway, I would get an amp that can output 200 watts x 2Ch continuous.

 

[killbill13]

Full range i want, no subwoofer. So marantz 5013 is it fine or not?
https://www.xtzsound.eu/product/edge-a2-300 can i use this and marantz together?
this gives power to just 2 speakers and not to center. Is it ok?

 

[NINaudio]

You already bought a sub, didn't you? Why are you trying to eliminate it already?

These are not full range towers, you'll be missing the bottom octave, at least. They're rated to be -3db at 34 Hz. Depending on what type of music you listen to and movies you watch you are leaving out a good chunk of the bass spectrum.

 

[killbill13]

You already bought a sub, didn't you? Why are you trying to eliminate it already?

as soon as its not shipped I can make make changes.
i prefer a setup without subwoofer
i found a cheap and classy end amplifier. It wont do the Job?
this speakers are 20kg each are you sure they wont do the job?

 

[killbill13]

They're rated to be -3db at 34 Hz.

that destroys my plan? Is it information under there?

 

[Pogre]

Dude... what did you do?

 

[killbill13]

Dude... what did you do?

Nothing. Just searching my options and try to find out how big towers work.
hey your previous pic was better. This is kinda furious

 

[TLS Guy]

i have a marantz 5013

XTZ Spirit 11 floorstanding speaker - XTZ Sound in Balance

Perfect for home cinema and reproduction of music. The Spirit 11 stands out of its priceclass with its customized drivers and the high quality finish.

www.xtzsound.eu

XTZ Spirit 8 center speaker - XTZ Sound in Balance

With enormous power and dynamics, the Spirit 8 center speaker is capable to reproduce voices in a natural and accurate way.

www.xtzsound.eu

what kind of amplification i need for these? Marantz has port for end amplifier to add for power. But i dont know what.

i need to find out the cost. For this 3 things

I posted previously on another post. Like most current receivers, that Marantz 5013 will not power most currently available speakers, especially not towers. Those speakers are going to be 4 ohm and not 8, especially in the power band. I set one of those receivers up for someone, with towers. The receiver sounded stressed and frankly distressed at more than very moderate volumes, and when pushed got as hot as a pistol.

The problem is that ALL receivers need to be able to provide their rated power into 4 ohms, no excuses. When yo really look at it, receivers currently actually only deliver about half their specified power at best. Receivers, never a good buy, are a lousy buy right now. With all those amps squeezed into one small board you could not possibly expect otherwise.

 

[killbill13]

I posted previously on another post. Like most current receivers, that Marantz 5013 will not power most currently available speakers, especially not towers. Those speakers are going to be 4 ohm and not 8, especially in the power band. I set one of those receivers up for someone, with towers. The receiver sounded stressed and frankly distressed at more than very moderate volumes, and when pushed got as hot as a pistol.

The problem is that ALL receivers need to be able to provide their rated power into 4 ohms, no excuses. When yo really look at it, receivers currently actually only deliver about half their specified power at best. Receivers, never a good buy, are a lousy buy right now. With all those amps squeezed into one small board you could not possibly expect otherwise.

I wont go on and buy, just for future https://www.xtzsound.eu/product/edge-a2-300 if i add this to marantz i am fine with this speakers?

 

[TLS Guy]

I wont go on and buy, just for future https://www.xtzsound.eu/product/edge-a2-300 if i add this to marantz i am fine with this speakers?

Only if you play it gently and put it on the 6 ohm setting to limit power. If you push it hard, I'm pretty sure you could easily blow it up. So it all depends on how yo want to use it.

 

[NINaudio]

that destroys my plan? Is it information under there?

It depends on the type of music you listen to, but yes it can be present in your music and it is certainly present below that in movies. True full range towers will cost you A LOT of money and are almost always large. Probably larger than you want.

i prefer a setup without subwoofer
this speakers are 20kg each are you sure they wont do the job?

Weight of a speaker has nothing to do with it's ability to eliminate/decrease the need for a sub.

If you really care about bass, you need to forget about giving up a subwoofer unless you're prepared to spend a lot of money and deal with very large towers.

 

[Verdinut]

Very large towers are rather expensive and cost a lot more than adding one or two good subwoofers.

If you want bass response down to below 30 Hz, you definitely need at least one subwoofer. As a matter of fact, some full range speakers contain a subwoofer in the same cabinet. For example, my HT system consists of three bi-amplified full range speakers for the front channels. Each 8 cubic foot cabinet contains a 15" subwoofer and I can get a response down to 20 Hz at -3 dB:

My 7 Channel System

SYSTEM: MARANTZ SR5010, 3 QSC DCA 1222 AMPS. DRIVING THE FRONT CHANNELS IN ACTIVE BI-AMP CONFIG. QSC DCA 1824 (4 CH. AMP.) FOR SURROUND CHANNELS OPPO BDP-95, REVOX B77, TEAC AN-80 (NR), AUDIO-TECHNICA AT-LP1240, SHURE M97XE, HITACHI HCA-8300, PANASONIC TH-50PZ80U, FURMAN PS-8R, APC H15 FRONT...

forums.audioholics.com

 

[killbill13]

Thanks a lot guys i wont do it. i am canceling the project nosubwoofer for now. I will take the subwoofer and keep my existing speakers

 

[TLS Guy]

Actually I don't actually believe that there is anything out there on the market that really does what you want.

I have done it and its a challenge. For one thing these days, you have to be able to blend in the LFE signal. This requires some active circuitry. So you really can't purchase a full range speaker that just connects to the loudspeaker terminal.

These are my dual transmission line speakers and transmission line center in my current theater.

The left and right mains truly are full range speakers. They are probably few speakers in the world that truly have that performance. Their design is totally unique and I know of no other speakers designed like those. They are not a knock off of anyone else's design.

If you are still interested there is a quick explanation of the design in this post on another thread.

So I think you need a change of plan unless you want to go to a lot of trouble. Also you could not power those speakers from a receiver, it takes 6 power amp channels for the mains and 2 for the center. In addition three active crossovers are required and a 2 channel buffer amp.

 

[killbill13]

All my sound system has same price with two of this red chairs....heh.