Why the left is against economic growth

BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

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Universal Health care must be nearly impossible to do. In fact so much impossible that only 32 out of 33 developed counties could make it work. In other news, I am always fascinated by people in lower-income brackets who scream with foam at their mouths about slightly increased taxes for the top 0.001%.
Maybe even more fascinating is that some of these 0.001% of top earners ask their taxes to be raised.
Source: https://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-wealth-tax-letter-soros-disney-20190624-story.html
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

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The US will never make up the difference if WalMart sells less to any major degree- it's not possible and illegal migrant workers should tell you that because Americans DO NOT want to do those jobs, for such low pay. They would rather go without a job. As for some of the items, I won't say they'll never be made here since the founder of FoxConn has said they'll begin production later this year. However, if WalMart is taken down a notch and they close a lot of stores, where will those people work?
My next door neighbor down in Fla ran a landscaping crew. I went to work for him one day when work was slow for me in construction. The first part of the day was fine, unloading plants from a flatbed and other odds and ends stuff. Then we all started laying sod. I didn't understand that it was 5 bucks a pallet so I grabbed sod from which ever pallet was closest to me for my designated area. The people working from those pallets just watched and smiled until one guy told me the score. I made it to about 2:30 before I had to go hide in the shade thrown by the house. I was the only white guy but none of us were American.

We lived in The States before moving to Canada. In order for me to return, I needed a sponsor who would guarantee that I would not become a public charge for 3 years. That shouldn't have been a problem considering the family I had here but I was surprised by my brother-in-law's hesitation. My procrastinating sister took 6 months to get to a notary and she had never listened to her husband anyway so it got done. I had asked my uncle for sponsorship as well and he flat out declined my request stating he thought I should stay in Canada for my mom: his sister. That was an ostensible load of crap for which I have not forgiven him. I'm still working that out in therapy.

It seems like you could enact an immigration policy with a similar stipulation for people who are migrant field workers instead of letting illegals mow rich people's lawns. When you catch somebody employing illegals, how about 6 months hard labor as a migrant field worker? How about paying those workers more and politicians less? I don't know, it's never gonna happen so those are fictional solutions to real problems. The answers would never come from me anyway so picking apart my dream scenario isn't very challenging.

The idea with Walmart shoppers buying domestic is that the former Walmart employees would have manufacturing jobs instead. That's another fictional solution to a real problem so it too is time wasted on words.

I have seen the stats about Obama's time as POTUS but I have to wonder how Obama supporters and the Left sleep, considering their stance on immigration and pot is diametrically opposed to those practices of deporting and closing pot dispensaries.
I agree with you on that 100%. The knee-jerk reaction to legal deportation ought not be caging babies while you bang porn stars. Just sayin'. :D

Note: Okay, this post is dumb. I understand if the rabid right needs to let loose with some unkind feedback.:p
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
We lived in The States before moving to Canada. In order for me to return, I needed a sponsor who would guarantee that I would not become a public charge for 3 years. That shouldn't have been a problem considering the family I had here but I was surprised by my brother-in-law's hesitation. My procrastinating sister took 6 months to get to a notary and she had never listened to her husband anyway so it got done. I had asked my uncle for sponsorship as well and he flat out declined my request stating he thought I should stay in Canada for my mom: his sister. That was an ostensible load of crap for which I have not forgiven him. I'm still working that out in therapy.

It seems like you could enact an immigration policy with a similar stipulation for people who are migrant field workers instead of letting illegals mow rich people's lawns. When you catch somebody employing illegals, how about 6 months hard labor as a migrant field worker? How about paying those workers more and politicians less? I don't know, it's never gonna happen so those are fictional solutions to real problems. The answers would never come from me anyway so picking apart my dream scenario isn't very challenging.

The idea with Walmart shoppers buying domestic is that the former Walmart employees would have manufacturing jobs instead. That's another fictional solution to a real problem so it too is time wasted on words.

I agree with you on that 100%. The knee-jerk reaction to legal deportation ought not be caging babies while you bang porn stars. Just sayin'. :D

Note: Okay, this post is dumb. I understand if the rabid right needs to let loose with some unkind feedback.:p
Immigration needs to be something other than a political football but politicians cater to the emotions of their constituents. WRT your brother in-law, my cousin has a comment about that kind of thing- "Isn't that why it's called 'family'?". Our family has had some incredibly stupid events and this is the reason for her comment. I bet he wouldn't have hesitated if it was his side of the family who needed help.

I agree with your opinion about politicians but it's already illegal for someone to knowingly employ illegals, but the penalties aren't strictly enforced. Again, it's political.

But let's be honest- the US is held up as an example of a country being unfair to immigrants, but Mexico and it's immigration policies can be more harsh and some European countries have all but stopped letting illegals in. It's as if people don't want to allow the US to enforce its laws.

I still want the governments of the countries of origin for immigrants to fix their own problems, rather than be the cause for the mass exodus. NOTHING is being done about those governments because, as Obama said, "we're not about nation-building". Where the eff is the UN and other supposedly 'humanitarian' organizations?


I'm not against immigration, I just want to know who's coming in, what they have done WRT criminal activity, how they expect to support themselves and their families- these are the basis of the policies of all countries. Portraying one group as 'rapists and murderers' is totally unfair but the fact remains that some who have come across Southern the border HAVE done these. Too many criminals have come back after deportation, many for serious crimes and they commit additional serious crimes after their return. Still, the rest live in relative peace in spite of bad conditions. I can't want to deny entry because if that had always been the policy, I wouldn't be here since my ancestors came from other countries.

However, is it fair to force the people of a country to support those who come from somewhere else? I don't think so, but I also don't think it's fair to be forced to support people who were born there and don't want to support themselves. All someone needs to do is go to ANY city and look around- there's always something that could be done to improve it but people here don't even want to pick up the trash in their own yards. That's pathetic. If local governments cared about the condition of their cities, they would have some kind of fund that would cover the cost of people helping- that alone could help people support themselves. It's not glamorous, but it could pay some bills when a regular job isn't available.

As a glaring example, Milwaukee will be hosting the DNC convention this year and the Mayor is ecstatic, but whenever I drive through the area approaching downtown, I see crap laying on the ground, houses with plywood covering windows and doors, holes in roofs, unkept yards, terrible roads, closed businesses and other signs of blight. I hope that EVERY person who comes here for the convention comments about the condition of this city- maybe it would spur some improvements but in light of the fact that the Democrats have been in power here for 104 years without a break, I doubt it will change. They're one of the reasons I'm not a Democrat but nobody else seems to be picking up the slack, either.

I could go on for decades about what's wrong locally and in the US but it would take even longer to define what's wrong with the rest of the World. If people would stop trying to kill others because of their religious differences and for the natural resources they want, they wouldn't need as much assistance from others. Wars could stop, but they won't. Besides- how could we support the additional population? Half a million have died in Syria alone since 2014, another half million have died in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq since 9-11.


Regarding those who would be former WalMart employees, there's no guarantees that they would work in manufacturing if many of those I have seen are any indication and very little would be produced because they aren't interested in doing much. People get jobs that require work at the pace they're willing to move and requiring the effort they're willing to exert. Some are willing to work very hard but many aren't. That's a problem.

I think lobbying needs to end.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
I agree with you on that 100%. The knee-jerk reaction to legal deportation ought not be caging babies while you bang porn stars. Just sayin'. :D
Any porn star banging happened before he was elected, AFAIK and the same conditions at detainment existed during Obama, but the Left would never have reported that- hell, he got a Nobel Peace prize for what they HOPED he would do! I had thought it was given for someones' actual accomplishments. Oh, well.
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
Any porn star banging happened before he was elected…
But Trump paid off that porn actress to silence her during the 2016 election.

Let's call her a porn actress, not a star – who really heard of her before 2016?
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
My next door neighbor down in Fla ran a landscaping crew. I went to work for him one day when work was slow for me in construction. The first part of the day was fine, unloading plants from a flatbed and other odds and ends stuff. Then we all started laying sod. I didn't understand that it was 5 bucks a pallet so I grabbed sod from which ever pallet was closest to me for my designated area. The people working from those pallets just watched and smiled until one guy told me the score. I made it to about 2:30 before I had to go hide in the shade thrown by the house. I was the only white guy but none of us were American.

We lived in The States before moving to Canada. In order for me to return, I needed a sponsor who would guarantee that I would not become a public charge for 3 years. That shouldn't have been a problem considering the family I had here but I was surprised by my brother-in-law's hesitation. My procrastinating sister took 6 months to get to a notary and she had never listened to her husband anyway so it got done. I had asked my uncle for sponsorship as well and he flat out declined my request stating he thought I should stay in Canada for my mom: his sister. That was an ostensible load of crap for which I have not forgiven him. I'm still working that out in therapy.

It seems like you could enact an immigration policy with a similar stipulation for people who are migrant field workers instead of letting illegals mow rich people's lawns. When you catch somebody employing illegals, how about 6 months hard labor as a migrant field worker? How about paying those workers more and politicians less? I don't know, it's never gonna happen so those are fictional solutions to real problems. The answers would never come from me anyway so picking apart my dream scenario isn't very challenging.

The idea with Walmart shoppers buying domestic is that the former Walmart employees would have manufacturing jobs instead. That's another fictional solution to a real problem so it too is time wasted on words.



I agree with you on that 100%. The knee-jerk reaction to legal deportation ought not be caging babies while you bang porn stars. Just sayin'. :D

Note: Okay, this post is dumb. I understand if the rabid right needs to let loose with some unkind feedback.:p[my bold]
I thought your post was quite good so I hope the "winner" like will assuage any bad feelings generated by the rabid right :D
 
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But Trump paid off that porn actress to silence her during the 2016 election.

Let's call her a porn actress, not a star – who really heard of her before 2016?
Donald Trump for starters...
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
But Trump paid off that porn actress to silence her during the 2016 election.

Let's call her a porn actress, not a star – who really heard of her before 2016?
Shows how well that money worked. Should he have banged a White House intern while in office and denied it, instead? What about Paula Jones and the others? Does this mean he's worse than Clinton?

What does it say about Hillary, that she stood by him and claimed the claims against him were "part of a vast right-wing conspiracy" in light of the fact that the claims turned out to be true? I would hate to have received her wrath.

And I don't want to see claims of 'whataboutism', or anything like that.
 
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Seriously, I have no life.
If you don't like whataboutism claims, it should be clear that you not make them.
How does Clinton's activity not apply? Accusing someone of something that's so similar to that of someone associated with the accusers is a bit hypocritical, isn't is?

I'm not sure it's a good idea to consider many in Washington, DC as 'moral'.
 
Trell

Trell

Audioholic Spartan
How does Clinton's activity not apply? Accusing someone of something that's so similar to that of someone associated with the accusers is a bit hypocritical, isn't is?

I'm not sure it's a good idea to consider many in Washington, DC as 'moral'.
Trump did pay off (allegedly an illegal campaign payment) the porn star, but did Clinton do that as well?
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
When Stormy Daniels was rigged up to that lie detector, I still wonder why no one asked her these questions:
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  1. How many bottles of Jack Daniels did you have to drink before jumping in the sack with that slime ball?
  2. Are those things real?
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
When Stormy Daniels was rigged up to that lie detector, I still wonder why no one asked her these questions:
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  1. How many bottles of Jack Daniels did you have to drink before jumping in the sack with that slime ball?
  2. Are those things real?
#2. (a) Real Nice (b) Real Expensive

Back on topic: I'm think starting to experience some economic growth just looking at those things.

Edit: ... and it's leaning to the left.
 
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highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
#2. (a) Real Nice (b) Real Expensive

Back on topic: I'm think starting to experience some economic growth just looking at those things.

Edit: ... and it's leaning to the left.
Nice job of steering the conversation.....
 
Kai

Kai

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Perhaps the "left" sees itself as a "globalist" organization and wants parity with the rest of the world. Silly as it may seem some believe it is better to dumb us down rather than build up those that have less.

When you have less you are easier to control and it costs far less as well...remember the "free" Obama phones? didn't cost much to control that group.

Many on the left are also upset with our "consumerism" mentality...funny how they have so much but want us to have less and less...socialism at its' best...never met a poor socialist leader...look at today's bunch, millionaires the whole lot of them and telling us what's good for us all the while.

I'll stick with crass capitalism and work hard to get and stay ahead.
 
BoredSysAdmin

BoredSysAdmin

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I am genuinely curious, who does the right seems the right way to promote our country's and our personal economic growth?
By cutting taxes to the rich and hope for the best or by de-regulation (creates more monopolies, which do abuse their power to affect the free market)? I mean both methods are proven not to work. So Please, Do tell me. Or was it jailing of kids, building the useless wall and destroying established trade agreements and political relations?
Please educate me on a single thing which republicans done so well in the last 20-30 years?
 
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