Considering replacing speaker cables and Bi / Tire - wring to speakers

Grunt66

Grunt66

Audioholic Intern
First my setup. I am using an Arcam AVR-850 and my front speakers are Mirage OMD-28's and they have connections to accept tri-wire. I am currently using Monster M series M2.4 bi-wire for the fronts and my center channel. I purchased theses speaker cables used around 2010 for the fronts and the center for $300.

With that being said I did not realize how much weight the speaker cables place on the back of the Arcam AVR-850, so much that the connectors on the Arcam bend down slightly. I have attached a picture of the speaker wires and the silver device placed over the speaker wires at the end is heavy. The way I see it I have three options: (1) keep using the cables (which I like) and hope the downward pressure does not cause any issues with the connectors on the Arcam, (2) find a way to support the weight of the cables, or (3) replace the speaker cables.

I am already using Blue Jean interconnects and I am thinking about building my own speakers cables with Canare 4S11 terminated with banana plugs or buying them direct from Blue Jean Cables.

Now the question of running bi-wire as I am currently doing however my speakers are configured for tri--wire. I started researching this when I started looking at different speaker cable from Monoprice and Blue Jean Cable company. Should I go with a 2 conductor or 4 conductor speaker cable and stay with bi-wire. Doing a simple web search and most folks on various forums state bi wiring has benefits in audio quality and some state is does not. The justification for the bi-wire from what I have read is related to the type of material the speaker bridge is made of and how it transmits the audio signal. I have even read on Audiogon from a poster that has my exact speakers (Mirage OMD-28's) that he connected his bi-wire speaker cables to the highs and the mids and used a speaker cable jumper from the mids to lows. He stated there was a difference in what heard. I take this with a grain of salt.

I have attached a pictures of the type of speaker cables I am using so you can see the large device with black rubber o-rings around it.
I appreciate any all input.
 

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everettT

everettT

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First my setup. I am using an Arcam AVR-850 and my front speakers are Mirage OMD-28's and they have connections to accept tri-wire. I am currently using Monster M series M2.4 bi-wire for the fronts and my center channel. I purchased theses speaker cables used around 2010 for the fronts and the center for $300.

With that being said I did not realize how much weight the speaker cables place on the back of the Arcam AVR-850, so much that the connectors on the Arcam bend down slightly. I have attached a picture of the speaker wires and the silver device placed over the speaker wires at the end is heavy. The way I see it I have three options: (1) keep using the cables (which I like) and hope the downward pressure does not cause any issues with the connectors on the Arcam, (2) find a way to support the weight of the cables, or (3) replace the speaker cables.

I am already using Blue Jean interconnects and I am thinking about building my own speakers cables with Canare 4S11 terminated with banana plugs or buying them direct from Blue Jean Cables.

Now the question of running bi-wire as I am currently doing however my speakers are configured for tri--wire. I started researching this when I started looking at different speaker cable from Monoprice and Blue Jean Cable company. Should I go with a 2 conductor or 4 conductor speaker cable and stay with bi-wire. Doing a simple web search and most folks on various forums state bi wiring has benefits in audio quality and some state is does not. The justification for the bi-wire from what I have read is related to the type of material the speaker bridge is made of and how it transmits the audio signal. I have even read on Audiogon from a poster that has my exact speakers (Mirage OMD-28's) that he connected his bi-wire speaker cables to the highs and the mids and used a speaker cable jumper from the mids to lows. He stated there was a difference in what heard. I take this with a grain of salt.

I have attached a pictures of the type of speaker cables I am using so you can see the large device with black rubber o-rings around it.
I appreciate any all input.
I'll just say that ill keep quite on upgrading speaker cables for anything other than looks.
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
Start following advice from some of the guys over at Audiogon will have you emptying your wallet while you're left trying to convince yourself you can hear a difference...

HD provided a good link to read up on bi wiring. BJC is at least a legit cable company who are transparent about what their cables can do and the prices are reasonable enough for well built cables. Don't get sucked into the expensive esoteric cable game tho. Biggest waste of money in just about the whole industry.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Just looked at the picture of the cables, those do look a bit porky (maybe even on steroids).
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
I could imagine some zip ties, rubber bands or string or something working. Tie 'em up to something to help support the weight.
 
MR.MAGOO

MR.MAGOO

Audioholic Field Marshall
The biggest error I made was bi-amping the front speakers, no noticeable difference and set me back the cost of an extra amplifier and wiring which would have better been spent on better subwoofers, or some good vinyl records.
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
The biggest error I made was bi-amping the front speakers, no noticeable difference and set me back the cost of an extra amplifier and wiring which would have better been spent on better subwoofers, or some good vinyl records.
Oof. I didn't know you bought a whole other amp to passive bi amp your speakers.

Give it some thought tho and I'll bet you can come up with a good use for it. I have more amp channels than I need too and have been giving some serious consideration to going full blown atmos lately. I have more speakers, 2 of which I can already mount on the ceiling as-is...
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Do the cable swap to protect your Amp but realize that cables are transparent and have no effect in sound quality. Anyone telling you different also believes in voodoo.
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
Truthfully I've never tried by/tire-wring my speakers. Tho to be honest, I don't think I know how to do it correctly... :p
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Truthfully I've never tried by/tire-wring my speakers. Tho to be honest, I don't think I know how to do it correctly... :p
I've wrung out some of my tubeless tires on my bikes to get rid of excessive sealant....
 
ryanosaur

ryanosaur

Audioholic Overlord
Truthfully I've never tried by/tire-wring my speakers. Tho to be honest, I don't think I know how to do it correctly... :p
The steel belting is a horrible conductor!
 

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