Definitive technology pro cinema 600 eq setting

[Janderson797]

That covers a lot of ground, which model? What were the crossovers, levels and delays (distance)set by MCACC for each channel?

Pioneer elite vsx-lx101

 

[lovinthehd]

I can jot down the eq setting too if that helps

Curious, did MCACC set sub distance exact same as mains? Or did you? Do you have the surrounds to the sides or actually in the rear? What are the room dimensions? Is it closed off or open to other space? Pics might help....

Your eq settings might help since you're asking if eq can help. Are they manual settings you've made or those just from MCACC?

 

[Janderson797]

Curious, did MCACC set sub distance exact same as mains? Or did you? Do you have the surrounds to the sides or actually in the rear? What are the room dimensions? Is it closed off or open to other space? Pics might help....

Your eq settings might help since you're asking if eq can help. Are they manual settings you've made or those just from MCACC?

The the MCACC did the measurements but the sub is under one of my front speakers. The surrounds are in the back of the room. The room is L shapped but my speakers and tv are only in 1 half of the room.

I tried with pictures but the site said the were too big. Ill try again later tonight to see if I can get the size down

 

[lovinthehd]

The the MCACC did the measurements but the sub is under one of my front speakers. The surrounds are in the back of the room. The room is L shapped but my speakers and tv are only in 1 half of the room.

I tried with pictures but the site said the were too big. Ill try again later tonight to see if I can get the size down

The reason I asked about the sub is that generally it's going to be a different distance due the processing time in the sub's amp....and many think it should be the actual distance (when it's more about setting delay).

The shape of the room can complicate things but the reason we're asking about room dims is bass works with the whole space/volume rather than just the distance between you and a spaeker. Especially larger rooms are hard for very small subs like the DefTecs.

If you use a pc with W10, just right click on the photo file and select edit, then resize....I ususally just do about 25-35%....

 

[Janderson797]

Eq settings

 

[Janderson797]

Let me know if you can access the link

 

[lovinthehd]

I can click on the link, takes me to sign into my google account then after I sign in still says I need permission....

 

[Janderson797]

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kdbu1pbb7okp5pe/AAAPdzQfqTzUqXM1rJggwezMa?dl=0

Tried on my drop box. Let me know if this works better

 

[lovinthehd]

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kdbu1pbb7okp5pe/AAAPdzQfqTzUqXM1rJggwezMa?dl=0

Tried on my drop box. Let me know if this works better

This works. Not familiar with the Pioneer graphic, is it just post-MCACC without manual adjustment? It set the crossover? How about the room dims (L-shape and all).

 

[Pogre]

Replacing that subwoofer would make a huge difference.

 

[Janderson797]

Ok measurements for my room. Where my tv and speakers are. 13x22. The other side of the L is 17x12

 

[Janderson797]

Just uploaded the eq settings listed for all speakers and sub

 

[Janderson797]

Just uploaded the eq settings listed for all speakers and sub

Same dropbox link

 

[lovinthehd]

Dang that's a lot of boost going on in the speakers at so many frequencies, yet not the sub, kinda odd but should leave you some room to bump up the eq on the sub for some more bottom end. Surprised MCACC does that much boosting on the speakers tho. Will have to take a look at the manual to see if there's some help with all that's displayed but not explained. That's a huge room, about 4000 cuft (assuming 8 ft ceilings), especially for a very small sub. Would be interesting to see actual measurements of the room post-MCACC. Or see how that system does in a more appropriately sized (much smaller) room....

Some measurements of your system from S&V fyi https://www.soundandvision.com/content/definitive-technology-procinema-600-speaker-system-ht-labs-measures

 

[Janderson797]

Dang that's a lot of boost going on in the speakers at so many frequencies, yet not the sub, kinda odd but should leave you some room to bump up the eq on the sub for some more bottom end. Surprised MCACC does that much boosting on the speakers tho. Will have to take a look at the manual to see if there's some help with all that's displayed but not explained. That's a huge room, about 4000 cuft (assuming 8 ft ceilings), especially for a very small sub. Would be interesting to see actual measurements of the room post-MCACC. Or see how that system does in a more appropriately sized (much smaller) room....

Some measurements of your system from S&V fyi https://www.soundandvision.com/content/definitive-technology-procinema-600-speaker-system-ht-labs-measures

Thanks for the link but notbsure how to decipher what this means.

 

[lovinthehd]

Thanks for the link but notbsure how to decipher what this means.

Takes some time. It particularly shows very little deep bass performance from the sub. Also shows the system doesn't really overlap capability enough at the upper end of the sub's range with that of the satellites....you might just try raising your crossover to 120 as per the Deftec recommendation.

Shadyj wrote a good article on interpreting speaker measurements https://www.audioholics.com/loudspeaker-design/understanding-loudspeaker-measurements

 

[daddyora]

Ha, enjoying the conversation. I have this same DT 600 sub and just last night was commenting on how much bass that it was producing in my small (and lively) HT room (14x14x9) while watching the intro to a Yellowstone series show. I have the sub set up in a corner facing a 1/2 open wall into a larger space. The sub is set to crossover from Elac BS5.2 L/C/R @ 80 Hz with all speakers set to small. Truth be told, we are not bass-heads but do plan to replace the sub with 1-2 better subs. In my conditions however the little DT sub does ok. Eq'd via YPAO on avr.

 

[Janderson797]

What are your eq settings?