faint buzz coming from speakers after hooking up amp to receiver.

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Chubbz

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i have power cords separated from all other wires. all power cords running into furman conditioner. using onkyo rz830 receiver and an older sherbourn 7-110 amp. there is a switch on back of amp for ground that says semi-float and float. will switching this clear up buzz. dont want to switch without knowing what it does. dont want to damage anything or get shocked. any help would be appreciated. thanks
 

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slipperybidness

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@TLS Guy
Do you have any insight for what the amp means by "semi-float"? I'm not familiar with that term.

I believe the "float" option is the same as a "ground lift" switch. If I am correct, then that is likely where you want to flip the switch to eliminate that buzz.

But, likely TLS will see this soon enough and get you set straight.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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@TLS Guy
Do you have any insight for what the amp means by "semi-float"? I'm not familiar with that term.

I believe the "float" option is the same as a "ground lift" switch. If I am correct, then that is likely where you want to flip the switch to eliminate that buzz.

But, likely TLS will see this soon enough and get you set straight.
Float is a bad term really. The float position means that the ground is disconnected, like a cheater plug would do. Semi float could mean what ever the manufacturer wants it to mean. However it usually refers to a situation where circuitry the the primary side of the mains transformer remains grounded, but the ground to anything supplied to the secondary side is lifted. He should look at his user manual for details, and locate one if he does not have it.

Unfortunately grounding power amps, often leads to ground loops. As long as he experiments with this switch when the amp is connected to other grounded equipment by grounded interconnects, there would be no risk of shock. Unless one knows what his system hook up is it is hard to comment. The most common source of ground loops are cable TV and internet connections.

The cause of ground loop hum and buzz is always due to a resistance between grounds, without exception. So getting all equipment to the same ground potential is always the cure.
 
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Chubbz

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Thanks guys. I can’t find a manual for this amp anywhere online. I even emailed Emotiva and they don’t have that manual either from when they acquired Sherbourn. I emailed them again about switch but no reply yet.
 
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snakeeyes

Audioholic Ninja
Float is a bad term really. The float position means that the ground is disconnected, like a cheater plug would do. Semi float could mean what ever the manufacturer wants it to mean. However it usually refers to a situation where circuitry the the primary side of the mains transformer remains grounded, but the ground to anything supplied to the secondary side is lifted. He should look at his user manual for details, and locate one if he does not have it.

Unfortunately grounding power amps, often leads to ground loops. As long as he experiments with this switch when the amp is connected to other grounded equipment by grounded interconnects, there would be no risk of shock. Unless one knows what his system hook up is it is hard to comment. The most common source of ground loops are cable TV and internet connections.

The cause of ground loop hum and buzz is always due to a resistance between grounds, without exception. So getting all equipment to the same ground potential is always the cure.
Sorry if this had been discussed before but do you have any links about how to get equipment on the same ground potential? I may add an amp when I go from 5.1 to 5.1.4
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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Sorry if this had been discussed before but do you have any links about how to get equipment on the same ground potential? I may add an amp when I go from 5.1 to 5.1.4
Designing good reliable ground planes, is an art, and actually a quite complex skill set in practice.

However the over riding principle is one ground and not more. This is easy to state but in practice takes skill planning and foresight to implement.

There are various schemes. The one I favor is the star cluster grounding system developed by the Canadian Broadcasting system. In essence all grounds are fed back to a central known and substantial known good ground with minimal resistance.
 
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