Would XLR-->RCA output from Sennheiser HDV 820 to a Pioneer Receiver work?

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ldl01031

Audiophyte
I own the HD 800 S and would like to buy the HDV 820 amp. However, my desire is to connect my Pro-Ject turntable to the HDV - no problem, I can use the RCA output on the turntable to the unbalanced RCA on the HDV. First question - should I use the XLR-4 output on the HDV or does it matter (i.e., I could use the 6.35 mm plug)? Real question: I also need to get turntable output to my Pioneer SC-99 receiver. Can I use the XLR-3 analog outputs with an RCA adapter (or RCA-XLR cable) to connect the HDV to my receiver? Will that compromise the quality I have now (i.e., turntable to phono-in RCA)? I bought a Schiit Magni 3 and it is worthless (it can't begin to power the headphones). Assuming it is possible, would that (RCA-XLR) supply a decently boosted signal to the receiver? Would I want to use something other than the phono-in on the receiver with this setup (RCA-XLR)? So - bottom line - can I use an RCA-XLR cable to connect the HDV to the receiver and would that output be at least as good as direct phono to receiver? I assume the problem is somewhat obvious - I can't connect/disconnect the phono every time I want to switch from headphones to speakers. I have a very high end sound card in the PC connected to all this - my only 'missing' link is phono to headphones. Sorry for the rambling ... help please :)

Thank You.
 
HTfreak2004

HTfreak2004

Senior Audioholic
From my understanding rca cables are unbalanced and xlr cables are balanced. All components in the chain from the source component to receiver/processor to amp must use the same connections to be a truly balanced system. I was interested in using balanced xlr cables from processor to amp but my source player does not offer the xlr output so I was told to use a “decent shielded rca digital and or analog rca’s for all interconnections between components otherwise I would not reap the benefit from xlr interconnects. I hope that helps a bit!


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ldl01031

Audiophyte
I'm not expecting balanced output - I know I won't get that. I guess the main question is - would I hear something disastrous if I convert the HDV 820 XLR-3 output to RCA as an input to a Receiver?
 
WaynePflughaupt

WaynePflughaupt

Audioholic Samurai
XLR to RCA cables will work fine. They won’t boost the signal though – wire can’t do that.

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt
 
Verdinut

Verdinut

Audioholic Spartan
In my opinion, there's no real advantage with the XLR connection, either balanced or unbalanced, unless you have to run long interconnects. With lengths up to ten feet, I wouldn't worry and would use RCA connections.
 
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ldl01031

Audiophyte
Right Wayne - I was thinking of the boost from the HDV 820 itself (the turntable isn't amplified so I was wondering if I might need to plug the HDV into something other than the phono input on the receiver. As for simply using RCA connections - I don't have that option on the Sennheiser HDV 820. But it sounds like the XLR-->RCA conversion isn't an issue. Yay!
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
In my opinion, there's no real advantage with the XLR connection, either balanced or unbalanced, unless you have to run long interconnects. With lengths up to ten feet, I wouldn't worry and would use RCA connections.
More robust connectors.
The capability for positive-lock connections.

and, of course, noise rejection if a balanced connection.

The only advantage RCA has is its smaller size (less space taken up on the backpanel.

I agree that there's not much lost if you don't use XLR; but if I have the option, all else being the same, I will every time.

Then again: I also like the speakon connectors. :D
 
Verdinut

Verdinut

Audioholic Spartan
More robust connectors.
The capability for positive-lock connections.

and, of course, noise rejection if a balanced connection.

The only advantage RCA has is its smaller size (less space taken up on the backpanel.

I agree that there's not much lost if you don't use XLR; but if I have the option, all else being the same, I will every time.

Then again: I also like the speakon connectors. :D
I agree with you about the more secure connection with the XLR connector. However, there is usually no noise rejection advantage withn a balanced XLR connection for a short length cable. RCA connections have been and are still used on high-end audiophile equipment without any problem. If there had been, the RCA connector which was originally designed for 78's and LP record playback, would have been replaced a long time ago.
 
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highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
That Sennheiser had better be a damned amazing headphone amplifier, for that price.

It also has a lot of inputs that you don't really need, assuming the Pioneer has a better than average DAC, decent phono input and other qualities that weren't included in the Pioneer. Have you compared the Pioneer's headphone output with the Sennheiser?
 
JerryLove

JerryLove

Audioholic Ninja
I agree with you about the more secure connection with the XLR connector. However, there is usually no noise rejection advantage withn a balanced XLR connection for a short length cable. RCA connections have been and are still used on high-end audiophile equipment without any problem. If there had been, the RCA connector which was originally designed for 78's and LP record playback, would have been replaced a long time ago.
I agree. RCA connectors are just fine for most home setups (IOW: setups where the interconnect isn't 200 ft long and run across a stage). There's no audible issue that would require a move to XLR.

There's noting *wrong* with using XLR either... but it's not necessary in most non-commercial applications
 
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