ellisr63

ellisr63

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I will be having a turntable in our living room, but all the equipment except the turntable. And power amps will be in another room. The living room is also our theater so all of the sources will feed our Yamaha cxa5100 preamp which will then feed all kf our active speakers, and atmos channels. I am thinking of getting a preamp with balanced outputs, and get or make a switcher to switch my front 2 channels from the AVP to the AP in the living room when we want to listen to records.

I have been looking for something inexpensive to use, and I am not quite sure if it would be a phono preamp or a full fledged preamp. All, I want is one pair of XLRs for output and input, a pair of RCAs, and a volume control ()remote control would be nice, but not required..

Does a phono preamp have a volume control, and gain, or is it just like the phono buffer amps that need to be plugged into a preamp,AVR, etc?

Budget under $1k...prefer under $500.

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sterling shoote

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Think it out, you implied everything but the control amp is in the living room for enjoyment in that room: speakers, turntable, power amps; but, for some reason, you want the control amp in another room? What's that all about? Put it all in the living room. And, if you get a decent control amp, it will have a phono input, so no need for a phono preamp.
 
ellisr63

ellisr63

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Think it out, you implied everything but the control amp is in the living room for enjoyment in that room: speakers, turntable, power amps; but, for some reason, you want the control amp in another room? What's that all about? Put it all in the living room. And, if you get a decent control amp, it will have a phono input, so no need for a phono preamp.
1st post modified to clarify amps too.

I hope this makes more sense...
In our living room we only want the turntable, our active speakers which also will be hidden from view. All other equipment will be hidden in another room...this is for security, and health reasons. I was originally going to install a 2nd pair of speakers for audio only, but now the room will not be a dedicated room. My CXA 5100 has a decent phono stage, but my Art is better IMO. I have 75' runs of XLRs to my front speakers, and if the turntable was put in the rack with the rest of the equipment I would have to run to the rack to cue the record when it is over.

If I understand you correctly a phono preamp would not work in my situation as it would be required to be plugged into a AVR or AVP. Now I know there is no differnce between a phono preamp, vs a phono buffered preamp in my situation. I guess I will look for a Classe dr4, or some other preamp for the living room.
 
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sterling shoote

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Good Luck; but, I've gotta tell ya, you might be better all around building a custom cabinet to hide components, and accommodate the turntable in the cabinet's bookcase area, See Pinterest, Or, operate the turntable separately from home theatre system. You can do that by buying a phono preamp and utilizing active speakers which have a volume control. If that's not appealing, you could buy a phono preamp that has a volume control.
 
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ellisr63

ellisr63

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Thanks, I have another idea...what I might do is move the Yamaha preamp next to the turntable, and get an HDMI switcher to put with the rack, and send the theater sources to the Yamaha preamp. This way we can still have most of the equipment in another room. The front speakers are big horns, and take up about 3' x 2' x 2', and we will have 5 of these in the room to conceal, plus Atmos channels. The idea is to make it look like we do not have expensive equipment, and also be healthy by being away from all the electrical radiation.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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Thanks, I have another idea...what I might do is move the Yamaha preamp next to the turntable, and get an HDMI switcher to put with the rack, and send the theater sources to the Yamaha preamp. This way we can still have most of the equipment in another room. The front speakers are big horns, and take up about 3' x 2' x 2', and we will have 5 of these in the room to conceal, plus Atmos channels. The idea is to make it look like we do not have expensive equipment, and also be healthy by being away from all the electrical radiation.
Electrical radiation from what?
 
ellisr63

ellisr63

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Electrical radiation from what?
From the a.c. power lines. I read a medical article a while back where theybwere testing power line radiation, and cardiac testing. They had to stop the testing. As it was too harmful to the patients pacemakers. I have a pacemaker, and try to avoid being within 8' of powerlines just like in the medical article.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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From the a.c. power lines. I read a medical article a while back where theybwere testing power line radiation, and cardiac testing. They had to stop the testing. As it was too harmful to the patients pacemakers. I have a pacemaker, and try to avoid being within 8' of powerlines just like in the medical article.
Are you sure that was good information? Seems that if pacemaker wearers couldn't be around power lines of the nature of hifi power cords, electrical lamps or other typical home wiring this would be a huge issue....
 
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Beave

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I'm skeptical too. Is there a link to this? Maybe it was about high-voltage transmission lines, not home wiring?
 
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Are you sure that was good information? Seems that if pacemaker wearers couldn't be around power lines of the nature of hifi power cords, electrical lamps or other typical home wiring this would be a huge issue....
I know powerlines are bad...my first wife died from cancer, and the thigh tension power lines were right across the street., and when I talked to the fire chief he said that there was a cluster of cancer deaths in the neighborhood. I have read other reports about radiation from power lines, and also read that you should not have any powerlines in your bedroom within 8 feet of your body. I am so glad that where we live now doesnt require an outlet every. 8 feet. Too each there own, but I want to do whatever I need to prolong my health..
 
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ellisr63

ellisr63

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Let me see if I can locate one YouTube video about wifi radiation.
 
ellisr63

ellisr63

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Here is a short video that will tell you a little about microwaves. A friend of mine works for the phone company, and he confirmed about how bad electricity, and microwaves are for you.

 
ellisr63

ellisr63

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Being within 8 feet of a powerline in your walls throws off the heart monitors that monitor pacemakers as well as EKG machines.
 
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Beave

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I know powerlines are bad...my first wife died from cancer, and the thigh tension power lines were right across the street., and when I talked to the fire chief he said that there was a cluster of cancer deaths in the neighborhood. I have read other reports about radiation from power lines, and also read that you should not have any powerlines in your bedroom within 8 feet of your body. I am so glad that where we live now doesnt require an outlet every. 8 feet. Too each there own, but I want to do whatever I need to prolong my health..
That's total bs. There are cancer clusters in every neighborhood. Do you know how common cancer is?

The radiation from power lines has not been proven to be a cause of cancer.
 
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Beave

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Do you understand the difference between microwave radiation and the radiation from power lines?

Do you understand the importance of amplitude when it comes to such radiation?

You're falling for scare tactics, aka FUD.

Look at legitimate science, journal articles that are peer reviewed.
 
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Beave

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Being within 8 feet of a powerline in your walls throws off the heart monitors that monitor pacemakers as well as EKG machines.
Huh? I just had two EKGs in late 2017, and both times they had me sitting right next to some power outlets that fed the bed that was in the doctor's office.
 
ellisr63

ellisr63

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I did not state this to start an argument.. A friend of mine who works around microwaves confirmed it, and that along with what I have read is good enough for me. Hospitals as far as I know have much better shielding than we have in homes.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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Here is a short video that will tell you a little about microwaves. A friend of mine works for the phone company, and he confirmed about how bad electricity, and microwaves are for you.

Actually had little actual information other than this guy's interpretation of use/effects. Sure wouldn't rely on it.
 
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Beave

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I apologize for coming on so strong. But your friend who works around microwaves confirmed what exactly?

If common household power causes cancer (or even other diseases), why aren't there higher rates of cancer for employees who work in electronics labs? Or employees who work in factories? Or employees who work at server farms?
 

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