Need help with Yamaha RX-V2500

[joebob]

I finally set up my "dream" system, Yamaha RX-V2500 with Aperion Audio 532 speaker system with 10" sub in 5.1 configuration. I'm expecting a great sounding system, but what I'm getting sounds thin, slightly harsh and completely lacking bass. I have trouble believing that this receiver and speaker system, both highly rated, are supposed to sound like this. It sounds a little better with movies than with CD's or the tuner, but still not that great.

Just to cover the basics, I'm using quality cables and monster power center. I used 12 guage speaker cables with banana clips, following the diy speaker cables article to the letter. The receiver is new, not refurbished, as are the speakers. I went through the auto setup with the receiver using the setup mic. The setup test produced sound from each of the speakers; and the results showed no issues. I've tried adjusting the bass control, bass crossover bass out and several other settings. The front, center and surround speakers are set to small. My understanding is that the subwoofer should kick in with these settings. I've also tried every sound field program I can find on the unit. They all sound different, but none of them very good.

My next step will be to try swapping out the receiver and speakers from my old system to see If I can isolate the problem. What am I missing here. Thanks, in advance, for your help.

 

[gmichael]

How did you position the mic durring the setup? I have found that if you place it low or in a seat/sofa that you will end up with a thin sound as an end result. The mic picks up all the base and very little highs from this position so the Yammie tries to make up for it by giving you lots of highs & no lows.
Do you have a tripod to set it on?

 

[joebob]

I used a tripod for the mic at ear level.

 

[Buckle-meister]

...what I'm getting sounds thin, slightly harsh and completely lacking bass.

Troubleshooting ideas:

1. Try listening with all speakers set to full range, i.e. Large. If they sound fine then the problem would appear to be a bass management issue.
2. Try listening with YPAO's settings switched off as this'll help determine whether it's just YPAO's results that are somehow way off, or something else entirely.
3. You are using a digital connection from CD/DVD player to receiver with the correct settings in the player aren't you?

 

[wafflebird]

Try This

Joebob,

I have the 2500 as well hooked up to Mirage omnisats, an Omni CC and a velodyne DLS-R3750. I went through the auto set-up myself, but was not very happy with it. I have went into my manual settings and played around with each individual speakers (including the sub) setting. If you go into the manual set-up you can adjust the decible setting + or minus. You can also set each components "Loudness" in the set-up as well. I know you are not "Specifically" talking about loudness, but quality, but if I were you I would at least go through this proceedure to see if it makes a difference.

Once you have done this, put on some of your favorite music, put the receiver on 7 Ch. stereo and give it some juice. Then sit down and just listen, don't just listen to part of one song, listen to half if not the whole CD. Play around with the volume, and surround sound modes if you want. Then see what you think.

Let me know how it goes.

 

[joebob]

Thanks for the replies. I'll try the suggestions. I don't see where you can turn off the YPAO settings. Is there a place to do that, or do you just adjust each of the settings? My speakers came with an SPL meter. Does anyone have instructions for calibrating the system with a meter? I'll work on it this weekend and let you know how it turns out. I'm still going to try connecting my old receiver to see how it stacks up. I'm wondering if I should have gone with tower speakers for the fronts to get better performance with music.

 

[jcPanny]

Manual Calibration

The maual calibration mode documented in your receiver manual will output a 75 dB test tone to each speaker. Set your SPL meter to the C rating and adjust the speaker levels so that all channels produce 75 dB. You can obviously double check the speaker distances with a tape measure. The sub crossover may require some trial and error, but 80 Hz is a good starting point for your system.

 

[Reid]

I finally set up my "dream" system, Yamaha RX-V2500 with Aperion Audio 532 speaker system with 10" sub in 5.1 configuration. I'm expecting a great sounding system, but what I'm getting sounds thin, slightly harsh and completely lacking bass. I have trouble believing that this receiver and speaker system, both highly rated, are supposed to sound like this. It sounds a little better with movies than with CD's or the tuner, but still not that great.

Just to cover the basics, I'm using quality cables and monster power center. I used 12 guage speaker cables with banana clips, following the diy speaker cables article to the letter. The receiver is new, not refurbished, as are the speakers. I went through the auto setup with the receiver using the setup mic. The setup test produced sound from each of the speakers; and the results showed no issues. I've tried adjusting the bass control, bass crossover bass out and several other settings. The front, center and surround speakers are set to small. My understanding is that the subwoofer should kick in with these settings. I've also tried every sound field program I can find on the unit. They all sound different, but none of them very good.

My next step will be to try swapping out the receiver and speakers from my old system to see If I can isolate the problem. What am I missing here. Thanks, in advance, for your help.

Het there

 

[Andrein]

What volumes do you get fer sub and speakers after running YPAO. If you have something like +10db for the sub it means the gain should be increased on the sub. If this is the case, increase the gain and rerun ypao.

 

[Reid]

You just talked to me in a foreign language

 

[Andrein]

You just talked to me in a foreign language

Sorry, made quite a few mistakes in my post. I had similar issue 2y ago when i bought my subs. I was feeling the lack of bass as well. The gain knob on the back of the sub was in 12 o clock position which most recommend to start with. But this was not enough and ypao was saying i need to increase the gain. I put it to 2 o clock position and ypao showed volumes for the sub and speakers within 2db range. When listening to music after that there was no lack of bass. You can try this as well.