Corelli Power Conditioner $2150

j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Exactly. Just look at all the non-FDA approved pills out there. Do they do anything, maybe, maybe not...If you FEEL like they do, then they do.
Enough people complain about those pills that do nothing though and the FDA will investigate. Just look at those vitamins they try to pass off as "medicine" when in fact it is not, such as Cold-eze, Airborne, etc... FDA made them change their wording to be more inline with what can reasonably be expected. Along the lines of "may shorten" a cold, does not "treat" it and basically they are just vitamin coctails that you could take on your own.

This you do not have when it comes to this sort of consumer product where no harm is done, just ridiculous claims.
 
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Wildings

Audioholic
You do know the BBB is pretty much a scam themselves?

Consumer audio advertising claims would fall under the purview federally of the FTC (such as amplifier claims).

Don't know why you put sales associates on pedestals....
I dont in general....was thinking of one in particular.
 
Johnny2Bad

Johnny2Bad

Audioholic Chief
It's some filters from H-N (and maybe H-G and G-N). They can be effective if you have dirty power on the specific AC line (from panel to your outlet, and any other outlets on that line).

But before you go there, it's probably just as easy to remove items that can cause AC line noise from that line (LED lamps, dimmers, poorly designed switch-mode power supplies, and God Forbid if you use things like Internet over AC or X10 home automation devices). Get that stuff off your HiFi line, and don't use X10 at all.

Depending on how your power gets to your home from the pole, even just your neighbour using X10 stuff can cause noise on your AC system.

If you need a lamp on that line, always use a good old incandescent lamp, low wattage bulbs are easily available.

If you want to test for such noise, play something at a reasonably high volume (not too loud), and hit pause / stop or lift the cartridge from your turntable. Then plug in a Hair Dryer into an outlet on the same line and turn it on while you are close enough to the speakers to listen for noise. You can also try the same thing on another line that is separate from your HiFi AC outlet.

You can buy a similar (identical?) device for $50 (or less, Amazon sells one for $20) if you feel the need. If your line is really bad (some people living in apartments, especially large cities, won't be able to keep the line clean just by cleaning up their own outlets) there are bona fide EMI filters that cost more (but not $2000) and do a better job. Even a simple Tripp-Lite ISOBAR outlet will help (and will carry 13A).

Often the best option is to use the filter near the offending item (same outlet). For example with inductive motor loads (furnaces, refrigerators, air conditioners) and other devices with interference potential (microwave ovens, WiFi routers) plug the filter in the same outlet as the offending device.

Or just don't listen to your system when the women in your house are getting ready to go somewhere.
 
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3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Who would be stupid enough to buy that? Wait..I think I know the answer... :rolleyes: :p
 
Johnny2Bad

Johnny2Bad

Audioholic Chief
Example: Tripp-Lite ISOBAR 4-outlet (two isolated duplex outlets)
MOVs (surge arrestors) and filter elements

Tripp-Lite No1.jpg
 
Johnny2Bad

Johnny2Bad

Audioholic Chief
As for complaints to the Commerce Dept / FCC / etc about the Corelli
... it would be simple enough to include some filter elements in the device. Since in that case you could show it's effective (because it will be) you have no case. High prices are irrelevant.
 
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Wildings

Audioholic
It's some filters from H-N (and maybe H-G and G-N). They can be effective if you have dirty power on the specific AC line (from panel to your outlet, and any other outlets on that line).

But before you go there, it's probably just as easy to remove items that can cause AC line noise from that line (LED lamps, dimmers, poorly designed switch-mode power supplies, and God Forbid if you use things like Internet over AC or X10 home automation devices). Get that stuff off your HiFi line, and don't use X10 at all.

Depending on how your power gets to your home from the pole, even just your neighbour using X10 stuff can cause noise on your AC system.

If you need a lamp on that line, always use a good old incandescent lamp, low wattage bulbs are easily available.

If you want to test for such noise, play something at a reasonably high volume (not too loud), and hit pause / stop or lift the cartridge from your turntable. Then plug in a Hair Dryer into an outlet on the same line and turn it on while you are close enough to the speakers to listen for noise. You can also try the same thing on another line that is separate from your HiFi AC outlet.

You can buy a similar (identical?) device for $50 (or less, Amazon sells one for $20) if you feel the need. If your line is really bad (some people living in apartments, especially large cities, won't be able to keep the line clean just by cleaning up their own outlets) there are bona fide EMI filters that cost more (but not $2000) and do a better job. Even a simple Tripp-Lite ISOBAR outlet will help (and will carry 13A).

Often the best option is to use the filter near the offending item (same outlet). For example with inductive motor loads (furnaces, refrigerators, air conditioners) and other devices with interference potential (microwave ovens, WiFi routers) plug the filter in the same outlet as the offending device.

Or just don't listen to your system when the women in your house are getting ready to go somewhere.
I only posted it as an example....no intention of going there myself. My setup sounds fine to me. Thanks though.
 
Johnny2Bad

Johnny2Bad

Audioholic Chief
I only posted it as an example....no intention of going there myself. My setup sounds fine to me. Thanks though.
Other people read these posts. Wasn't specifically directed at anyone in particular. But glad to hear you like your system. Too few people do, it seems.
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
Were you refering to me personally?
No.

This device belongs in the trash in the same way how these " magic high priced audiophile quality" outlets that sell for over $140.00 and up magically clean up the entire house grid. Shite like that only prays on the gullible and its infuriating to see how audio enthusiasts are robbed off their cash. Its pure and utter BS.
 
KenM10759

KenM10759

Audioholic Ninja
I've got a concern after reading about this unit. I'm really worried that it could conflict with my Synergistic Research Black Box and my system could suffer from excess blackness, and overblown Pace, Rythym, and Timing. What's the concensus?
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
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Wildings

Audioholic
Reading about the product on this link, and both the positive and negative reviews, clarifies the purpose of this forum. The fog has lifted for me, and I have come to see how much Snake Oil is out there ....yet I still maintain a bias for my solid silver vs copper headphone cables, and have not gotten around to doing a double blind test.
 
mtrycrafts

mtrycrafts

Seriously, I have no life.
... The fog has lifted for me, and I have come to see how much Snake Oil is out there ....yet I still maintain a bias for my solid silver vs copper headphone cables, and have not gotten around to doing a double blind test.
No real reason why that silver would make an audible difference in headphone cables when it doesn't in speaker cables nor interconnect cables.
 
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Wildings

Audioholic
No real reason why that silver would make an audible difference in headphone cables when it doesn't in speaker cables nor interconnect cables.
Probably for the same reason those folks sleep better when they plug that Amazon thing in the wall....because they anticipate
No real reason why that silver would make an audible difference in headphone cables when it doesn't in speaker cables nor interconnect cables.
I hear what you're saying, so to speak.....yet I seem to perceive a difference. Yes, it very well may be the result of subconscious bias, but nevertheless it is my subjective experience of reality. I agree that if there is indeed a difference it should be able to be measured....but possibly not. A friend is an EE, when he returns from a trip we will conduct a test.
 

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