AVR switches back to tv input

[gamelovers11223]

Hello. I have a weird problem.
First of all the hardware:
TV: LG 65" OLED B7A
Receiver: Denon AVR-X3300W
Remote control: Logitech Harmony Ultimate without hub.
The problem:
Every time I hit "Watch TV" on the harmony remote everything turns on properly: TV to hdmi3, receiver to CBL/SAT input and a cable box on. However within a few seconds receiver switches to "Output TV" and I have to manually switch the input to CBL/SAT in order to get everything to work correctly. So every time I want to watch TV I have to go through this.
This problem occured after I istalled a new tv, the old one did not have this issue even though it was a smart tv as well.
Am i missing something? How do I get the receiver to stay on the input I need?
Thanks.

 

[pewternhrata]

Hello. I have a weird problem.
First of all the hardware:
TV: LG 65" OLED B7A
Receiver: Denon AVR-X3300W
Remote control: Logitech Harmony Ultimate without hub.
The problem:
Every time I hit "Watch TV" on the harmony remote everything turns on properly: TV to hdmi3, receiver to CBL/SAT input and a cable box on. However within a few seconds receiver switches to "Output TV" and I have to manually switch the input to CBL/SAT in order to get everything to work correctly. So every time I want to watch TV I have to go through this.
This problem occured after I istalled a new tv, the old one did not have this issue even though it was a smart tv as well.
Am i missing something? How do I get the receiver to stay on the input I need?
Thanks.

Is HDMI CEC turned on? If so turn it off

 

[Ponzio]

u may want to review/reprogram the Harmony settings, if turning off the CEC setting doesn't resolve the issue.

 

[Montucky]

Is HDMI CEC turned on? If so turn it off

That would be my guess as well. The TV is likely inadvertently sending a signal through the HDMI cable to the receiver that is basically telling it to switch inputs. CEC/ARC does wacky stuff like this all the time. Can be a good thing if you didn't have a universal remote, but with the universal it seems to cause more trouble than not. Haha.

 

[lovinthehd]

Yep sounds like the usual ARC/HDMI-CEC conflict that can often result. I'd disable ARC/HDMI-CEC (and if you need the audio from the tv, use an optical cable to the avr).

 

[sterling shoote]

A few weeks ago I purchased a new Sony TV. I hooked it up to Bluray player via HDMI and to my pre/pro via optical S/PDIF. To my surprise, when I turn pre/pro to TV Source, the TV turns on automatically. When I turn on the Bluray player, the TV also turns on automatically and goes to Bluray player input. How can you not like that, WOW. There is a downside though, when I use the TV's remote control to turn off the TV, it also turns off the pre/pro.

 

[panteragstk]

A few weeks ago I purchased a new Sony TV. I hooked it up to Bluray player via HDMI and to my pre/pro via optical S/PDIF. To my surprise, when I turn pre/pro to TV Source, the TV turns on automatically. When I turn on the Bluray player, the TV also turns on automatically and goes to Bluray player input. How can you not like that, WOW. There is a downside though, when I use the TV's remote control to turn off the TV, it also turns off the pre/pro.

It's nice when CEC works properly, downside is that it will have issues that will make you want to smash things with a hammer...

 

[TechHDS]

A few weeks ago I purchased a new Sony TV. I hooked it up to Bluray player via HDMI and to my pre/pro via optical S/PDIF. To my surprise, when I turn pre/pro to TV Source, the TV turns on automatically. When I turn on the Bluray player, the TV also turns on automatically and goes to Bluray player input. How can you not like that, WOW. There is a downside though, when I use the TV's remote control to turn off the TV, it also turns off the pre/pro.

Yep gotta love them marketers huh? cause I wouldn't bet my last buck that the programmers engineers who went to the marketers didn't go, hey wait a minute that CEC link will interfere with AVR and pre-pros functions. On my AVR, if say I have my TV on but want to spin a CD while the TV is on just for sh$t's and giggles I turn my TV off that smart a $$ TV turns off the amp output. So now I have a few options to alleviate that little smart-ass problem that that CEC creates. 1# disable CEC on TV, 2# disable HDMI out on the Yamaha unit or 3# run a optical cable from the TV to the AVR to get TV sound cause well I use the TV tuner. Yeah I would say some engineer marker or programmer dropped the ball on that one. Can't they just program or engineer an audio return channel without affecting my AVR?. I don't need my TV remote controling nothing going to my AVR! Nor do I need my AVR processing or up converting or processing video to my HDTV! That's what my HDTV is supposed to do much better the any AVR could. You see those marketers do that to make everyone spend more money on gear with all the bells and whistles that most of us never really use or ever will use. Most of those streaming apps built into AVR are clunky mostly useless and well streaming cost money. Remove most of that crap put the engineering into better amp output better quality control and we won't have to be replacing AVR's, crappy subs that burn out in two or 3 years. Don't know about you guys but spending 800.00 bucks or more on AVR's that don't last 4 or 5 years is pretty much chasing customer away. Refrigerators last longer than most AVR's today. I have been in this hobby for decades and the last 7 to 10 years just about ever audio/video manufacturers put out crap. A few 100 bucks may be pocket change to the elitist in this Hobby but it isn't to the working class guy. That alone has chased away audio and video enthusiasts by the thousands because of the crap they put out that doesn't last. I buy used or refurbish now only cause got tried of getting burnt with new gear that doesn't last much past the warranty and with all the newest and greatest formats coming out every 2-3 years. Most people that I know have either sold off their gear because of those issues or they went back to old school two channel only.

 

[lovinthehd]

A few weeks ago I purchased a new Sony TV. I hooked it up to Bluray player via HDMI and to my pre/pro via optical S/PDIF. To my surprise, when I turn pre/pro to TV Source, the TV turns on automatically. When I turn on the Bluray player, the TV also turns on automatically and goes to Bluray player input. How can you not like that, WOW. There is a downside though, when I use the TV's remote control to turn off the TV, it also turns off the pre/pro.

Well that's somewhat how it should work and seeing you have mostly Sony, that's probably why your HDMI-CEC does....for the most part at least in terms of the tv (is that a Panasonic Bluray turning on?). It's the different brands' interpretation (or branding) of this sync between components....mostly skewed to their own system rather than among any mix of brands.

 

[sterling shoote]

Well that's somewhat how it should work and seeing you have mostly Sony, that's probably why your HDMI-CEC does....for the most part at least in terms of the tv (is that a Panasonic Bluray turning on?). It's the different brands' interpretation (or branding) of this sync between components....mostly skewed to their own system rather than among any mix of brands.

Yeah, my BD Player is a 10 year old Panasonic. Now, I'm guessing the TV is doing what it was designed to do, but, nevertheless, I was surprised at the unexpected power on/off functions, which was not on my radar when I went shopping for a new TV. In fact, all I was concentrating on was 4k and HDR in a set which would fit into my home entertainment cabinet. The Sony fits with about 1/32 inch clearance. At any rate, now that I'm familiar with the feature, I think I'll enjoy the miniscule convenience of not needing to get out the remote to change TV's input to enjoy Bluray Discs. One more thing, in the 50 plus years I've enjoyed stereo from some sort of equipment there have been numerous occasions where I have powered things up and have had no sound, usually because I did not set the input on equipment to correct source. So, maybe these new convenience technologies will be useful, especially if my brain deteriorates much more. BTW, my Sony TA-E9000es has CD inputs which recognize active source components and it will automatically input that source, whether optical, IEC 958, or analog. This feature works really well when playing CDs or SACDs from my SACD player. Of course, my pre/pro is now almost 20 years old; but, I've managed to bring it into this century and keep it relatively useful by adding Airplay, as well as a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi HD for 24/96 from computer to pre/pro. Fun stuff, for sure. I do dread however that at some point when I can no longer repair my pre/pro that I will need to get a new one. It's taken me almost 20 years to discover all of my pre/pro's features. I'll surely die before I discover how to use all the features on a new pre/pro.

 

[TechHDS]

Yeah, my BD Player is a 10 year old Panasonic. Now, I'm guessing the TV is doing what it was designed to do, but, nevertheless, I was surprised at the unexpected power on/off functions, which was not on my radar when I went shopping for a new TV. In fact, all I was concentrating on was 4k and HDR in a set which would fit into my home entertainment cabinet. The Sony fits with about 1/32 inch clearance. At any rate, now that I'm familiar with the feature, I think I'll enjoy the miniscule convenience of not needing to get out the remote to change TV's input to enjoy Bluray Discs. One more thing, in the 50 plus years I've enjoyed stereo from some sort of equipment there have been numerous occasions where I have powered things up and have had no sound, usually because I did not set the input on equipment to correct source. So, maybe these new convenience technologies will be useful, especially if my brain deteriorates much more. BTW, my Sony TA-E9000es has CD inputs which recognize active source components and it will automatically input that source, whether optical, IEC 958, or analog. This feature works really well when playing CDs or SACDs from my SACD player. Of course, my pre/pro is now almost 20 years old; but, I've managed to bring it into this century and keep it relatively useful by adding Airplay, as well as a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi HD for 24/96 from computer to pre/pro. Fun stuff, for sure. I do dread however that at some point when I can no longer repair my pre/pro that I will need to get a new one. It's taken me almost 20 years to discover all of my pre/pro's features. I'll surely die before I discover how to use all the features on a new pre/pro.

Good read with your post, yeah maybe I was a little to hard in my post above umm ok I was. like You I have many years with this hobby never regretted spending on equipment throughout the decades on this Hobby. One of the reasons i hangout in here well i learn from the old timers that have way more knowledge than I do about this Hobby. There are about a handful of the ole timers in here that are very knowledgeable and go out of their way to help people in here plus some of their post are funny and very good reads. Like you I get frustrated with the new technology sometimes not cause I don't understand how to use it fully I don't read the dam manuals that come with it mostly cuz I can get lazy. "lovinthehd" pretty much hit the nail on the head with his post above about CEC. Dude is one of the best at helping out in here one of the handful of members in here that's very knowledgeable. Don't get me wrong I love the new technology that comes out with this hobby it's exciting and refreshing. Guess I'm to old school minded getting up in my years. Sure hope I didn't inherit my father's fussiness when he got older.