Can’t Level match my sub

lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
The sub is in the front left corner. the subs eq is being utilized.
You were using the avr's AccuEQ at the same time?

I meant how did you choose that particular location? Did you do a sub crawl or use something in the sub's dsp to determine location (not familiar with the sub's dsp)? Corner loading may be adding too much boundary gain...might try a mid-wall position instead.
 
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Mark M

Junior Audioholic
You were using the avr's AccuEQ at the same time?

I meant how did you choose that particular location? Did you do a sub crawl or use something in the sub's dsp to determine location (not familiar with the sub's dsp)? Corner loading may be adding too much boundary gain...might try a mid-wall position instead.
No, I didn't do a sub crawl. I suppose I should.
The subs eq is supposed to do room correction though.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
No, I didn't do a sub crawl. I suppose I should.
The subs eq is supposed to do room correction though.
Sub location is a prime consideration, might check out some articles available here on the site on sub setup...

The sub eq I'd do first before AccuEQ if combining them, otherwise I'd also just stick to the sub's program and forget AccuEQ (by most reports AccuEQ doesn't do a very good job anyways).
 
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Mark M

Junior Audioholic
I eq the sub first. Then I eq the AVR. I turn the AVR eq/room correction off afterwards anyway.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
Another thought, does the avr have some sort of loudness contour or compression routine engaged? You have your speakers set to small or ? What crossover?
 
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Mark M

Junior Audioholic
Another thought, does the avr have some sort of loudness contour or compression routine engaged? You have your speakers set to small or ? What crossover?
I'm not aware of any loudness contour or compression routine, there's nothing called that on the AVR.
There is no "small" option. You can set the speakers as "Full Range" or add a crossover setting.
I have the speakers set to 80 and the LFE is 120.

My AVR is an Onkyo TX-RZ900
 
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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
I'm not aware of any loudness contour or compression routine, there's nothing called that on the AVR.
There is no "small" option. You can set the speakers as "Full Range" or add a crossover setting.
I have the speakers set to 80 and the LFE is 120.

My AVR is an Onkyo TX-RZ900
The compression routine seems to be a Dolby setting called Loudness Management, which apparently is on by default, on p.44 of the advanced manual. There's a THX setting for "loudness plus" or a contour type setting on p.43.

AVR terminology for bass management settings vary, most use the large/small thing, or full range for large (and crossover for using bass management in yours apparently).
 
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Mark M

Junior Audioholic
The compression routine seems to be a Dolby setting called Loudness Management, which apparently is on by default, on p.44 of the advanced manual. There's a THX setting for "loudness plus" or a contour type setting on p.43.

AVR terminology for bass management settings vary, most use the large/small thing, or full range for large (and crossover for using bass management in yours apparently).
Yes, there is a "Loudness Plus" option under the THX settings of the AVR. It says "For rich details of surround sound at lower volume"
I have it disabled.
 
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Mark M

Junior Audioholic
On a side note.....
When watching Netflix, HBO Now etc. I have a "Mulitchannel" setting which is mode suitable for playing sources recorded in PCM multichannel.
I also have THX Cinema option: THX Cinema mode corrects theatrical soundtracks for playback in a home theater environment. In this mode, THX Loudness Plus is configured for cinema levels and Re-EQ, Timbre Matching, and Adaptive Decorrelation are active.
The Mutlitchannel would basically be unprocessed as the source is also Multichannel PCM.
Howerver, I find that the THX Cinema mode blends the surrounds and fronts a bit better. It seems to actually tame or lower the surrounds. I think I like it better than Multichannel becuase it makes the ceiling surrounds less localized. What are you thoughts?
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
On a side note.....
When watching Netflix, HBO Now etc. I have a "Mulitchannel" setting which is mode suitable for playing sources recorded in PCM multichannel.
I also have THX Cinema option: THX Cinema mode corrects theatrical soundtracks for playback in a home theater environment. In this mode, THX Loudness Plus is configured for cinema levels and Re-EQ, Timbre Matching, and Adaptive Decorrelation are active.
The Mutlitchannel would basically be unprocessed as the source is also Multichannel PCM.
Howerver, I find that the THX Cinema mode blends the surrounds and fronts a bit better. It seems to actually tame or lower the surrounds. I think I like it better than Multichannel becuase it makes the ceiling surrounds less localized. What are you thoughts?
All PCM multichannel means is you have your app/device doing the decoding, rather than having your receiver do it (altho sometimes you get no choice with some apps/devices). All DD or DD+ or other codecs are are compressed pcm (lossless or lossy)...otherwise a sound mode is simply a preference...like using a loudness contour at lower volumes.
 
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Mark M

Junior Audioholic
What is the preferred method around here?

I think I even prefer THX Cinema over Dolby True HD and DTS Master Audio from DVDs.
 
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