Subwoofers For Small Area

[MR.MAGOO]

My room is approx. 23 feet long, 15 feet wide, with 9 ft. ceiling. However, I have this space partitioned off with a 6 foot tall by 9.5 foot wide collection of bookcases and racks. This gives me separate living / sleeping areas.

The 'living' area contains the sofa, AVR gear and 7.2 surround sound system with 2 subwoofers. This area is approx. 15 feet x 15 feet x 9 foot ceiling.

Current subwoofers are 2 Definitive Technology ProSub 800's, 300 watts each, with 8" front firing woofer pressure coupled with 8" bottom firing passive bass radiator. I use LFE to connect to the AVR. Crossover is at 80Hz on the AVR.

I've been told these subs are the 'weak link' in my system, any suggestions for something to fit my space? Should I consider the entire larger space (23x15x9) or the other (15x15x9)?

Would like a good 'all around' sub (movies & music) but perhaps more emphasis on music.

AV Receiver - Yamaha RX-A1020
All speakers / subs are Definitive Technology:
Front - Studio Monitor 65
Side Surround - Studio Monitor 55
Back Surround - Studio Monitor 45
Center Channel - Pro Center 1000
Subs (2) - Pro Sub 800

 

[lovinthehd]

Entire space, not just the partitioned off space for subs....you don't mention budget but maybe something like a pair of the RSL Speedwoofer 10S? http://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer-reviews/rsl-speedwoofer-10s

 

[MR.MAGOO]

Entire space, not just the partitioned off space for subs....you don't mention budget but maybe something like a pair of the RSL Speedwoofer 10S? http://www.audioholics.com/subwoofer-reviews/rsl-speedwoofer-10s

The RSL's fit my budget, but will the

• Power: 350 watts RMS @ 4 ohms, <1% distortion

in an 8 ohm system be a problem?

 

[KEW]

The RSL's fit my budget, but will the

• Power: 350 watts RMS @ 4 ohms, <1% distortion

in an 8 ohm system be a problem?

No!
The subs come with their own amps designed to work well with the sub!

All you need is the RCA subwoofer outputs from your receiver!

 

[lovinthehd]

The RSL's fit my budget, but will the

• Power: 350 watts RMS @ 4 ohms, <1% distortion

in an 8 ohm system be a problem?

As Kurt said, they use their own amp, just need the pre-out line level from your avr. Don't compare subs with the wattage, either, unless you know more about the system it is meaningless information.

 

[Hetfield]

RSL build quality stuff. Would not hesitate to buy anything from them.

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[shadyJ]

My room is approx. 23 feet long, 15 feet wide, with 9 ft. ceiling. However, I have this space partitioned off with a 6 foot tall by 9.5 foot wide collection of bookcases and racks. This gives me separate living / sleeping areas.

The 'living' area contains the sofa, AVR gear and 7.2 surround sound system with 2 subwoofers. This area is approx. 15 feet x 15 feet x 9 foot ceiling.

Current subwoofers are 2 Definitive Technology ProSub 800's, 300 watts each, with 8" front firing woofer pressure coupled with 8" bottom firing passive bass radiator. I use LFE to connect to the AVR. Crossover is at 80Hz on the AVR.

I've been told these subs are the 'weak link' in my system, any suggestions for something to fit my space? Should I consider the entire larger space (23x15x9) or the other (15x15x9)?

Would like a good 'all around' sub (movies & music) but perhaps more emphasis on music.

AV Receiver - Yamaha RX-A1020
All speakers / subs are Definitive Technology:
Front - Studio Monitor 65
Side Surround - Studio Monitor 55
Back Surround - Studio Monitor 45
Center Channel - Pro Center 1000
Subs (2) - Pro Sub 800

You need to consider the entire space for the subs. The subs see the entire open space, not just your listening area.

The question is, do you personally feel your current subs are lacking? While those might not be enough for some people, they might have enough output and extension for your tastes. If you do not drive them very hard they might be sufficient for your needs, in which case there is no need to spend money on other subs.

The RSL Speedwoofer looks fine. I like the Hsu VTF-1 mk3 in that price range, excellent performance for the price, especially in music ranges. Another good one is the Monoprice Monolith 10" THX sub. I would think the SVS PB-1000 is good, although I don't have experience with one myself. These will all be a good step up above your existing subs.

For a bigger step up, look at the Hsu VTF-2 mk5 if you want something that can punch above these 10" woofers class. And the Rythmik LV12r as well, along with the Monoprice Monolith 12 THX Ultra, the Outlaw Audio Ultra-X12, and the ported 2000 series subs from SVS.

If you want to take a giant leap over your existing sub, look at any of the 15" subs from Hsu or Rythmik or Monoprice. I like the 13" sub from Outlaw, and SVS is running a really good deal on their 13 Ultras as well.

 

[MR.MAGOO]

You need to consider the entire space for the subs. The subs see the entire open space, not just your listening area.

The question is, do you personally feel your current subs are lacking? While those might not be enough for some people, they might have enough output and extension for your tastes. If you do not drive them very hard they might be sufficient for your needs, in which case there is no need to spend money on other subs.

The RSL Speedwoofer looks fine. I like the Hsu VTF-1 mk3 in that price range, excellent performance for the price, especially in music ranges. Another good one is the Monoprice Monolith 10" THX sub. I would think the SVS PB-1000 is good, although I don't have experience with one myself. These will all be a good step up above your existing subs.

For a bigger step up, look at the Hsu VTF-2 mk5 if you want something that can punch above these 10" woofers class. And the Rythmik LV12r as well, along with the Monoprice Monolith 12 THX Ultra, the Outlaw Audio Ultra-X12, and the ported 2000 series subs from SVS.

If you want to take a giant leap over your existing sub, look at any of the 15" subs from Hsu or Rythmik or Monoprice. I like the 13" sub from Outlaw, and SVS is running a really good deal on their 13 Ultras as well.

I was only considering the main open area of my apartment (23x15x9), the whole thing is approx. 23x23x9 and that includes the 'main' open area, the remainder is kitchen, bath, closets.

I don't always play music or movies really loud, maybe the ProSubs will suffice for awhile with some tweaking. I'm just not sure they accurately reproduce bass, I've only owned one other sub (JBL 10") so I don't have a good reference point.

 

[Bucknekked]

My room is approx. 23 feet long, 15 feet wide, with 9 ft. ceiling. However, I have this space partitioned off with a 6 foot tall by 9.5 foot wide collection of bookcases and racks. This gives me separate living / sleeping areas.

I can double down on @shadyJ 's recommendation of the Monolith 10" sub, or maybe a 12".
I have one of the 10" subs and it is living up to some high expectations.
The sub guru's can do the math on your total cubic inches and find the right size.

Before you spend a dime though, I'd want to make sure that YOU think there is a problem to solve.
It sounded from your commentary like someone else was suggesting an issue.
That's a far cry from having a defined problem that you would recognize when a fix was applied.

I like knowing I will fix a problem before I spend money rather than thinking I might solve a problem.

 

[MR.MAGOO]

Before you spend a dime though, I'd want to make sure that YOU think there is a problem to solve.
It sounded from your commentary like someone else was suggesting an issue.
That's a far cry from having a defined problem that you would recognize when a fix was applied.

I like knowing I will fix a problem before I spend money rather than thinking I might solve a problem.

I probably need to learn and use the MiniDSP and REW I bought months ago, upload some graphs here and see what the gurus think!

 

[Bucknekked]

I probably need to learn and use the MiniDSP and REW I bought months ago, upload some graphs here and see what the gurus think!

@shadyJ is really handy with that stuff I believe. I know I received some pretty explicit instructions on REW and my new measurement microphone when I was testing my setup last year. I know @Pogre did it this year on his subs and learned a lot. I haven't fired up REW since I did all my initial measurements. I could get my script and redo it, but, knowing how to advise you would be less than optimal when there are guys who actually know a lot about it. I don't pretend to be an expert. I'm just a music lover trying to get my stuff to sound as good as it can

 

[shadyJ]

@shadyJ is really handy with that stuff I believe. I know I received some pretty explicit instructions on REW and my new measurement microphone when I was testing my setup last year. I know @Pogre did it this year on his subs and learned a lot. I haven't fired up REW since I did all my initial measurements. I could get my script and redo it, but, knowing how to advise you would be less than optimal when there are guys who actually know a lot about it. I don't pretend to be an expert. I'm just a music lover trying to get my stuff to sound as good as it can

I am not a MiniDSP expert, I haven't had a chance to dig into it much. I have a MiniDSP in my possession now but I don't want to change any settings on this particular device. I do use REW frequently and can give tips there.

 

[Norm Lazure]

Hi

Rel or JL Audio are both real good quality subs. Both are good for music You could find a used one as they are pricey but worth it.. I have 2 JL audio E10s