Leaving power on 24-7 for home reciever pros and cons?

Audiosaur

Audiosaur

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I would not leave it on. See if you can buy a discontinued Niles unit that will make a trigger. Failing that get a 12 volt relay with enough current capability to power your Crown. You can build your won trigger for the Crown.
Thanks for the reply, TLS. Those Niles units, even used, are prohibitively expensive. I may be up for the challenge of building the trigger but first I'll try this smart strip.
 
Audiosaur

Audiosaur

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You could use a smart power strip....
Yes, thanks HD. I didn't think about that until I saw it mentioned on another forum. Ordered from Amazon this morning. Only question is whether the Denon voltage differential from standby to full on is sufficient...
 
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lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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Yes, thanks HD. I didn't think about that until I saw it mentioned on another forum. Ordered from Amazon this morning. Only question is whether the Denon voltage differential from standby to full on is sufficient...
The only problem I had with my Denon was if I left it in network standby, that kept the power requirement high enough not to trigger the "off" ports on the power strips. I use a strip with an adjustment for sensitivity, too, and use it for a coupla Crown sub amps.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

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Thanks for the reply, TLS. Those Niles units, even used, are prohibitively expensive. I may be up for the challenge of building the trigger but first I'll try this smart strip.
That might work for you. Let us know what happens. I have never used on of those.
 
KEW

KEW

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I set up a Denon AVR-1217 as master with two Dayton Audio SUB-1200's being powered on using a smart strip and it worked beautifully!
The power strip I happened to use was made by Monster for HP and use in a computer station. I'm sure it was overpriced when it came out, but they were being discontinued and HP was clearancing them when I got mine.
No guarantees for your specific AVR and strip, but I think the odds are in your favor!
 
Johnny2Bad

Johnny2Bad

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The question not yet asked: How often do you use the gear in question?

If you are listening every day, if others might use it during the times you are away from home, if you listen almost all day on weekends, then you might consider leaving the AVR powered up continuously.

If more than 24 hours transpires before you are listening again, definitely power it down. What about if you use the components often, then? That's where it becomes a little less clear.

Surges in the power supply (inrush current) and temperature changes definitely have a wear factor that is part of the determination of component life. The difficulty is knowing exactly "how much" this is an issue, and the unfortunate answer is "it depends". Some gear tolerates startup better than others, some gear tolerates long power-up time better than others. Some gear happily tolerates either or both.

You are unlikely to know which is which from a perusal of the spec sheet; you probably would, at a minimum, need to pop the hood and look around inside, checking capacitors (and downloading the manufacturer's literature to determine the specifications), assessing layout, maybe even measuring temperature of the heat sinks when in operation (don't do this if you don't know what you are doing, or use a laser temperature probe which doesn't require contact).

As the manufacturing budget gets tighter, these are the areas that are compromised to drop the retail price, and these are the areas that are likely to give problems with operating heat and turn-on surges. Some manufacturers estimate how often their components will be used and for how long, and cut costs accordingly. In other words they are deliberately built *not* to be left on continuously.

It's one of those intangibles that premium components should offer that might not reveal themselves from the spec sheet. And the exact answer will change with every specific model, including units by the same manufacturer higher or lower in the catalog. So, there is no "one size fits all" answer.

Well, maybe there is one. If your gear is not properly ventilated, with adequate space around and above the components, you definitely should be powering down, even for brief interludes. You already are stressing everything and are already on the way to short component life.
 
KEW

KEW

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Maybe I am being naively optimistic, but I like to think that the "standby mode" modern gear goes into when you turn it off is optimized to prevent damage from major in-rush current concerns.
I believe the newer gear is subject to standards the reduce power consumption while in standby mode (or when the system is "idling"), those standards may be in conflict with best practices for durability.
Being from the "vintage era" I still think that my gear is off when I turn it "off", but when we have a power outage, the click of relays reminds me that it was never truly off.
Either way, it seems like most gear has a pretty good lifespan. If you are experiencing premature failures it probably reflects instability in your power grid and you would be wise to use a power strip or otherwise isolate your gear from the power supply whenever you are not playing it.
 
Audiosaur

Audiosaur

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I'm back to report. The smart strip arrived today and I set it up so the AVR is in the master outlet. Cable box is in an always on outlet. The BD player and amp are in controlled outlets. So far, it works perfectly, both on and off. The strip has an adjustable sensitivity but I didn't have to touch it. For $32, it's an inexpensive way to control power flow. I've since noticed there are less expensive brands that do the same thing, though, so shop around.
 
Darenwh

Darenwh

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These devices are DESIGNED for that sort of use.

I have a UMC-200 and there is NO reason to "warm it up". There's no carburetor :rolleyes:
Perhaps one day when you upgrade to the newest version of the UMC you will get one with a carburetor... :rolleyes:
 
Darenwh

Darenwh

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I plug everything but the Subwoofer Amp and the DVR into a power strip that I turn off when not using. The power strip is fed by a nice big UPS that also has the DVR plugged into it in an unswitched outlet. The Subwoofer amp is plugged directly into the wall. I have not had any issues from my equipment and like saving energy where I can. I have the equipment on four about four hours a day each day except the weekend when I am often out doing other things.
 
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