New Monoprice Subs!

TheWarrior

TheWarrior

Audioholic Ninja
Yay! More subs with incomplete data and 'trust me' manufacturer frequency response claims...

Lol, glad monoprice is finding a niche, their products seem to perform well. I just hope someday manufacturer data is as useful as the side of a tire!
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Yay! More subs with incomplete data and 'trust me' manufacturer frequency response claims...

Lol, glad monoprice is finding a niche, their products seem to perform well. I just hope someday manufacturer data is as useful as the side of a tire!
I have been trying to find some more specifics on said subs, but only to no avail. They look nice from the pics. But, that doesn't really mean much of anything. There is a lot of competition in those posted price ranges of $500, $800, and $1300 for the 10", 12" and the 15" respectively speaking. Only time will tell how they actually stack up eh? :):):)


Cheers,

Phil
 
Steve81

Steve81

Audioholics Five-0
What do you think?
Need more info, but first impressions are...meh....

Dollar for dollar, the Monoprice subs don't look like anything special against what ID subwoofer vendors are delivering these days. A Monoprice 10"/500W/$500 or 12"/500W/$800 ported subs vs the Hsu VTF2.5 and VTF3.5 respectively? No thanks. As for the 15", it'll have its work cut out trying to compete against the FV15HP and V1801.

And of course beyond price vs performance, there are those little details like support. Historically when I've pinged SVS, PSA, JTR, Funk, etc., I'm talking to people like Ed Mullen, Tom Vodhandel, Jeff Permanian, and Nathan Funk. I can't say I'd expect a similar level of attention from a company mostly known for selling bulk cable at low low prices.

PS: This guy from last year looked a lot more interesting, even if it was vaporware with bullshit specs.
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Need more info, but first impressions are...meh....

Dollar for dollar, the Monoprice subs don't look like anything special against what ID subwoofer vendors are delivering these days. A Monoprice 10"/500W/$500 or 12"/500W/$800 ported subs vs the Hsu VTF2.5 and VTF3.5 respectively? No thanks. As for the 15", it'll have its work cut out trying to compete against the FV15HP and V1801.

And of course beyond price vs performance, there are those little details like support. Historically when I've pinged SVS, PSA, JTR, Funk, etc., I'm talking to people like Ed Mullen, Tom Vodhandel, Jeff Permanian, and Nathan Funk. I can't say I'd expect a similar level of attention from a company mostly known for selling bulk cable at low low prices.

PS: This guy from last year looked a lot more interesting, even if it was vaporware with bullshit specs.
Very well spoken Steve. I agree 100%. Just seen this and thought that I would share. It is good to see Monoprice offering more variety, but at the specified prices there is plenty of competition. BTW, I had to go edit my original post b/c the 15" is $1,300! I thought it was $1,000. Looks to be a hard sale for Monoprice. Time will tell.


Cheers,

Phil
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
My hunch is that you guys are all in for a big surprise...

I'll say no more at this time.
 
ATLAudio

ATLAudio

Senior Audioholic
I'm pretty sure these subs will be solid performers. Since they are THX-Select and THX-Ultra certified, it's clear what they are capable of. That said, THX certification is an expensive way to publish specs and overall capability. An expense which is clearly passed on to the customer.

As @Steve81 said, the 15" will have it's work cut out for it in the market.
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
I'm pretty sure these subs will be solid performers. Since they are THX-Select and THX-Ultra certified, it's clear what they are capable of. That said, THX certification is an expensive way to publish specs and overall capability. An expense which is clearly passed on to the customer.

As @Steve81 said, the 15" will have it's work cut out for it in the market.
It is certainly going to be interesting. That much is for sure!:):):)


Cheers,

Phil
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
I'm pretty sure these subs will be solid performers. Since they are THX-Select and THX-Ultra certified, it's clear what they are capable of. That said, THX certification is an expensive way to publish specs and overall capability. An expense which is clearly passed on to the customer.

As @Steve81 said, the 15" will have it's work cut out for it in the market.
Not necessarily. They way it can work is that the OEM can produce THX certified products for different companies and be the license holder for the all the end products rather than the all the OBMs having to pay that fee separately. As I understand it, the fees to use the THX logo can be quite expensive, but the actual process of certification is not too expensive.
 
ATLAudio

ATLAudio

Senior Audioholic
Not necessarily. They way it can work is that the OEM can produce THX certified products for different companies and be the license holder for the all the end products rather than the all the OBMs having to pay that fee separately. As I understand it, the fees to use the THX logo can be quite expensive, but the actual process of certification is not too expensive.
Maybe I'm not following you, but by OEM are you saying the amp and driver are certified?
 
Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
Who doesn't want more subwoofers! They are in a pretty competitive market at those prices. Hsu still looks like it's the bang for buck option.
 
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Hetfield

Audioholic Samurai
Who doesn't want more subwoofers! They are in a pretty competitive market at those prices. Hsu still looks like it's the bang for buck option.
Quite frankly I'm am extremely surprised at kinda the negative time this thread has taken. It's just some subwoofers. I have feeling you are looking at this the same way Porge. I mean more subs in the market, quality subs is a good thing, not bad.

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Pogre

Pogre

Audioholic Slumlord
Quite frankly I'm am extremely surprised at kinda the negative time this thread has taken. It's just some subwoofers. I have feeling you are looking at this the same way Porge. I mean more subs in the market, quality subs is a good thing, not bad.

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I dunno. I don't think the comments are overly negative. Just some discussion on certification vs licensing.

But yeah, more subs good! No subs bad!
 
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Hetfield

Audioholic Samurai
I dunno. I don't think the comments are overly negative. Just some discussion on certification vs licensing.

But yeah, more subs good! No subs bad!
Ok, I haven't been following super close but some negative things I saw come across. More subs, more competition great!

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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
Maybe I'm not following you, but by OEM are you saying the amp and driver are certified?
The amp and the driver can be certified, as well as the entire unit. The unit itself can be made by an OEM who puts it through THX certification and already pays the licensing fees, then the unit can be sold by company X under their own brand. This way only one company, the OEM, deals with THX and its fees instead of half a dozen companies. Since only the OEM has to deal with the licensing fee for THX, that fee is only payed once by the OEM who is the licensee.
 
TheWarrior

TheWarrior

Audioholic Ninja
The amp and the driver can be certified, as well as the entire unit. The unit itself can be made by an OEM who puts it through THX certification and already pays the licensing fees, then the unit can be sold by company X under their own brand. This way only one company, the OEM, deals with THX and its fees instead of half a dozen companies. Since only the OEM has to deal with the licensing fee for THX, that fee is only payed once by the OEM who is the licensee.
They do kinda resemble HSU cabinets, no?
 
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shadyJ

Speaker of the House
Staff member
They do kinda resemble HSU cabinets, no?
Same thing could be said about SVS and Rythmik. Front-ported, front-firing, variable-tuned subwoofers are bound to end up resembling each other. That does not mean they are the same though, as Hsu, SVS, and Rythmik are all quite different from each other, even though they share the same basic cabinet arrangement.
 
TheWarrior

TheWarrior

Audioholic Ninja
Same thing could be said about SVS and Rythmik. Front-ported, front-firing, variable-tuned subwoofers are bound to end up resembling each other. That does not mean they are the same though, as Hsu, SVS, and Rythmik are all quite different from each other, even though they share the same basic cabinet arrangement.
On paper, sure. But the actual style and dimensions of the cabinets made me think HSU. SVS went the retail route already, and this concept would seem to underscore what Rythmik does. Of course there's still a bunch more brands that do actively seek THX certification, just the concept struck me as logical if this is indeed a HSU collaboration. Anyway....
 

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