need quick help you guys please

lovinthehd

lovinthehd

Audioholic Jedi
yeah i guess ima just change the mode when ever i use youtube or any other app


i herd vudu has HD movies including 7.1 audio etc. has anyone tried this app/ website
@yepimonfire has been extolling the virtues of Vudu lately, I don't have the bandwidth myself....btw most avrs can remember your favored mode for a given input....
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
@yepimonfire has been extolling the virtues of Vudu lately, I don't have the bandwidth myself....btw most avrs can remember your favored mode for a given input....

only problem is that I'm only using one input


is my ps4 I'm using it as my bluray and my youtube etc.
 
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yepimonfire

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only problem is that I'm only using one input


is my ps4 I'm using it as my bluray and my youtube etc.
Yes, but if you set your receiver to Dolby surround, for example, on 2ch pcm (which is what YouTube and music is output as), it will always switch to Dolby surround when 2ch pcm is played back. You should also check in the receiver settings and make sure your speakers are set to small and a xover is set to the correct frequency so that bass is redirected to the sub.

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cesar ortiz

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Yes, but if you set your receiver to Dolby surround, for example, on 2ch pcm (which is what YouTube and music is output as), it will always switch to Dolby surround when 2ch pcm is played back. You should also check in the receiver settings and make sure your speakers are set to small and a xover is set to the correct frequency so that bass is redirected to the sub.

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my left and right are set to large
 
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cesar ortiz

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this is a pic of my little set up

Very tight budget here so trying my best to get some good sounding stuff


any advice from anyone in here





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cesar ortiz

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@cesar ortiz I'd change your L/R speakers to small to enable bass management....
i just did that right now and my subwoofer came on now on stereo

thanks you guys...





whats your guys review on these speakers i have in my front..


for a beginner

hopefully later i can upgrade later..


or what do you guys think i should upgrade ?
 
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shadyJ

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Your front speakers look like the Sony SS series? I would think about upgrading from those down the road, when funds allow. Sony SS were inexpensive but pretty bad.

I would add that the use of the Klipsch RB41 as a center is not bad. It will not handle loud volumes very well, but the dispersion pattern from using that speaker as a center should actually be pretty good for a center speaker.
 
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cesar ortiz

Audioholic Intern
Your front speakers look like the Sony SS series? I would think about upgrading from those down the road, when funds allow. Sony SS were inexpensive but pretty bad.
Witch left and right channel would you recommend me getting down the line

as you can see my center channel is also a rb-41 I had a pioneer before









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shadyJ

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Witch left and right channel would you recommend me getting down the line

as you can see my center channel is also a rb-41 I had a pioneer before
Are you in the continental US? It is hard for me to make recommendations, since I don't know where you are at or what is available in your area.

A safe bet would be a couple more RB-41 speakers for the left and right fronts. They probably don't dig very low so you would want to raise the crossover frequency of your subs to maybe 100 Hz or so. I think they would have much better imaging than those Sony speakers.
 
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cesar ortiz

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Are you in the continental US? It is hard for me to make recommendations, since I don't know where you are at or what is available in your area.

A safe bet would be a couple more RB-41 speakers for the left and right fronts. They probably don't dig very low so you would want to raise the crossover frequency of your subs to maybe 100 Hz or so. I think they would have much better imaging than those Sony speakers.
Yeah I'm in California


US


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shadyJ

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Right now Fry's has the R14ms for sale for $200 a pair. There are Fry's all over California as I recall. Those would be a good match for your center.
 
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cesar ortiz

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Right now Fry's has the R14ms for sale for $200 a pair. There are Fry's all over California as I recall. Those would be a good match for your center.
Ima try to sale my old reciever my pioneer center channel and sale these Sony speakers and upgrade those speakers




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yepimonfire

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my left and right are set to large
Don't do that. For one, those speakers start rolling off at 50hz, two, subwoofers are much better at Bass than even the most monstrous floor standing speakers. My advice is to set each speaker to 80hz, unless the speaker is incapable of 80hz, then set it 10hz above the quoted -3dB point.

I would dump the Sony speakers. While they make excellent garage speakers, they're not that great for reference listening. Pretty much any klipsch speaker is going to tonally match another klipsch speaker close enough to blend with the RB 41. Right now you can find a pair of klipsch RB 10s for about $120 new on eBay. I'm currently using them as atmos speakers attached to the ceiling and am highly satisfied with their sound. I get a solid 80hz in room response with them, and being that klipsch speakers are extremely efficient, considering the size of your room I'm sure they will be capable of reaching reference levels with minimal distortion. The other suggestion I'd make is the you either elevate the center to ear height or mount it above the screen angled down. If the screen is acoustically transparent you could also place it behind the screen. Klipsch speakers have an extremely wide horizontal dispersion pattern of 90°, providing a flat off axis response up to 14khz, however, most models from the reference II series have poor vertical dispersion, causing a massive suckout at around 7khz vertically off axis (above and below the tweeter). You say you are on a tight budget. If you can stretch that budget just a bit, a set of R-15ms and a klipsch r-25c will make a massive improvement to your front sound stage. The newer reference series are much more accurate, and the r-25c has a wide 90° vertical dispersion pattern, making placement above or below ear level a none issue. I have no issue reaching peak SPL levels of 115dB during movies in a 20x12 room, sitting 9ft away using the above mentioned speakers. They dig much deeper too, the R-15ms reach about 50hz in room. All three can be had for less than $500 total.
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yepimonfire

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Your front speakers look like the Sony SS series? I would think about upgrading from those down the road, when funds allow. Sony SS were inexpensive but pretty bad.

I would add that the use of the Klipsch RB41 as a center is not bad. It will not handle loud volumes very well, but the dispersion pattern from using that speaker as a center should actually be pretty good for a center speaker.
To be quite honest, traditional bookshelf/floorstanding speakers are much better than a horizontally oriented MTM design. The modern center channel design is really created for convenience rather than performance, anybody sitting off axis horizontally is going to experience a null. How many matching center channels can keep up with their floor standing counterparts? Very few.

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yepimonfire

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Right now Fry's has the R14ms for sale for $200 a pair. There are Fry's all over California as I recall. Those would be a good match for your center.
Rb10s sound better. I own both. They have similar capabilities, but the r14ms have a lively cabinet, lending to a slightly chesty sound, they also begin distorting at a lower volume, however, they are significantly less bright compared to the reference II series.

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cesar ortiz

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Rb10s sound better. I own both. They have similar capabilities, but the r14ms have a lively cabinet, lending to a slightly chesty sound, they also begin distorting at a lower volume, however, they are significantly less bright compared to the reference II series.

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Will these hang on at high volume

For example right now with these Sony ss b3000. I can crank them up pretty danmm loud lol

my center rb-41 seems to hang on quite well

I am watching a movie right now at -15 db

And it sounds great

My rest of my speakers are definitive tech 600 and they seem to hold quite well also


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cesar ortiz

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Don't do that. For one, those speakers start rolling off at 50hz, two, subwoofers are much better at Bass than even the most monstrous floor standing speakers. My advice is to set each speaker to 80hz, unless the speaker is incapable of 80hz, then set it 10hz above the quoted -3dB point.

I would dump the Sony speakers. While they make excellent garage speakers, they're not that great for reference listening. Pretty much any klipsch speaker is going to tonally match another klipsch speaker close enough to blend with the RB 41. Right now you can find a pair of klipsch RB 10s for about $120 new on eBay. I'm currently using them as atmos speakers attached to the ceiling and am highly satisfied with their sound. I get a solid 80hz in room response with them, and being that klipsch speakers are extremely efficient, considering the size of your room I'm sure they will be capable of reaching reference levels with minimal distortion. The other suggestion I'd make is the you either elevate the center to ear height or mount it above the screen angled down. If the screen is acoustically transparent you could also place it behind the screen. Klipsch speakers have an extremely wide horizontal dispersion pattern of 90°, providing a flat off axis response up to 14khz, however, most models from the reference II series have poor vertical dispersion, causing a massive suckout at around 7khz vertically off axis (above and below the tweeter). You say you are on a tight budget. If you can stretch that budget just a bit, a set of R-15ms and a klipsch r-25c will make a massive improvement to your front sound stage. The newer reference series are much more accurate, and the r-25c has a wide 90° vertical dispersion pattern, making placement above or below ear level a none issue. I have no issue reaching peak SPL levels of 115dB during movies in a 20x12 room, sitting 9ft away using the above mentioned speakers. They dig much deeper too, the R-15ms reach about 50hz in room. All three can be had for less than $500 total.
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Yeah I have to upgrade those speakers asap now lol


I'm trying to sale some stuff so I can jump on some new stuff




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cesar ortiz

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Rb10s sound better. I own both. They have similar capabilities, but the r14ms have a lively cabinet, lending to a slightly chesty sound, they also begin distorting at a lower volume, however, they are significantly less bright compared to the reference II series.

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How are the VB-15 klipsch ?


Are those any good


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yepimonfire

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How are the VB-15 klipsch ?


Are those any good


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Not compared to the models suggested. Klipsch got a bit experimental with their original modified tractrix horn designs in the past through their best buy lineups, the only thing that has stuck is the original 90x60 horn and the 90x90 horn designs (which has replaced the 90x60 horn in their premiere series, the successor to their reference II series) for good reason. In addition, the older gray IMG woofers found in the synergy and icon series were much sloppier and slow sounding, along with tweeters suffering brightness issues. Either stick to the old reference II series or the new reference/reference premier series.

The rb 10s are going to be your cheapest option out of those, and I wouldn't hesitate to grab them, as I believe they've been discontinued, hence the price. If you're not against waiting a long time, best buy practically gives Klipsch speakers away during Black Friday.

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