Stereo Receiver HDMI Audio Out

[Chris914]

Does the HDMI out on the new stereo receivers have audio or is it video only?

We're trying to hookup a turntable and laserdisc to a Bose SoundTouch 130 Home Theater System. We could get indivdual RCA converters to HDMI but we like having the tuner part of a receiver as well.

If we have to use a convertor, what is the quality of the $40 type convertors?

 

[lovinthehd]

Not sure what you're asking about HDMI out when you're trying to connect source units to the inputs on the Bose 130 console. There is only one pair of analog inputs, so this is likely better suited for your turntable (assume it already has a phono pre-amp stage built in since the Bose unit doesn't?). Does your laser disc player have an optical or coaxial digital output to connect to the optical or coaxial digital inputs on the Bose? No experience with a converter in any case

 

[TLS Guy]

Does the HDMI out on the new stereo receivers have audio or is it video only?

We're trying to hookup a turntable and laserdisc to a Bose SoundTouch 130 Home Theater System. We could get indivdual RCA converters to HDMI but we like having the tuner part of a receiver as well.

If we have to use a convertor, what is the quality of the $40 type convertors?

What is that convertor? Most of those units you describe are frauds. You can get audio extractors to use with HDMI outs of DVD/BD players etc, but I'm far from certain you could use the HDMI out of a receiver. That is because the HDMI out of a receiver is designed to go to a TV which is an end device and not a pass though device. There is audio and video at the TV HDMI out as all HDMI sockets must have. The HDCP hand shake codes for end device and pass though are very different.

You need to be very careful with those so called adapters in any event. The only ones legal are HDCP certified audio extractors. Convertors for video and audio are not legal and usually are fraudulent.

One think I don't understand is, if you have a new AV receiver, why are you using that awful Bose Junk?

 

[Alex2507]

One think I don't understand is, if you have a new AV receiver, why are you using that awful Bose Junk?

I'll give you odds it's the wife.

Welcome to AH. It gets better.

 

[DD66000]

As has been said, the typical hdmi converts don't work.
There are some that do, but cost a few $100.
Might as well dump the Bose and start over.

 

[Chris914]

What is that convertor? Most of those units you describe are frauds.

One think I don't understand is, if you have a new AV receiver, why are you using that awful Bose Junk?

This is what I'm looking at.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019T0WFA4/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2RNQR12E7XN07

I want to convert Composite video and audio to HDMI and I was hoping to use the HDMI out on a stereo receiver.

As for the Bose, hey some people drink beer, I've never found fault for what some folks like.

 

[Chris914]

I'll give you odds it's the wife.

Welcome to AH. It gets better.

And how do you know Chris isn't a female?

 

[slipperybidness]

This is what I'm looking at.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019T0WFA4/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2RNQR12E7XN07

I want to convert Composite video and audio to HDMI and I was hoping to use the HDMI out on a stereo receiver.

As for the Bose, hey some people drink beer, I've never found fault for what some folks like.

That should not be a problem at all. The difficulty today is more likely finding an AVR that actually has a Composite vid connection.

 

[j_garcia]

And how do you know Chris isn't a female?

Could still apply, depending on the state.

 

[DD66000]

This is what I'm looking at.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019T0WFA4/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2RNQR12E7XN07

I want to convert Composite video and audio to HDMI and I was hoping to use the HDMI out on a stereo receiver.

Well, I for one misunderstood, so you want to go from composite to hdmi. I thought you wanted to go the other direction.

 

[TLS Guy]

Well, I for one misunderstood, so you want to go from composite to hdmi. I thought you wanted to go the other direction.

So did I, and I think he does. If that is the case the device will not work. He talked about using the HDMI out of a receiver, so that can't be the solution.

 

[Chris914]

So did I, and I think he does. If that is the case the device will not work. He talked about using the HDMI out of a receiver, so that can't be the solution.

So the composite video/audio (in) on this receiver isn't going to be converted and sent out on the HDMI Arc (out) then?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DMW90SA/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1J7WSBJHTGUFA

So will this work to convert composite video/audio to HDMI without breaking any laws?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019T0WFA4/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2RNQR12E7XN07

Thanks for everyone's help so far.

 

[lovinthehd]

Hard to call the Bose console a receiver, nor is it stereo in the 2ch sense that that usually means, that threw me off a bit earlier, the Bose is an integrated amp at best. Signal direction is confused too; ARC would accept audio from a tv back to a suitably ARC enabled avr, Are you trying to get audio from the speakers connected to the Bose console or to a display to play on the display's speakers?

 

[Chris914]

Hard to call the Bose console a receiver, nor is it stereo in the 2ch sense that that usually means, that threw me off a bit earlier, the Bose is an integrated amp at best. Signal direction is confused too; ARC would accept audio from a tv back to a suitably ARC enabled avr, Are you trying to get audio from the speakers connected to the Bose console or to a display to play on the display's speakers?

How about we pretend I never mentioned the Bose.

Can the composite [video in] and composite [audio in] be played out of the [HDMI out] on the following stereo receiver?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DMW90SA/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1J7WSBJHTGUFA

 

[lovinthehd]

How about we pretend I never mentioned the Bose.

Can the composite [video in] and composite [audio in] be played out of the [HDMI out] on the following stereo receiver?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DMW90SA/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_3?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1J7WSBJHTGUFA

That's not a stereo receiver in the usual sense. Really helps if you describe exact gear and what you're trying to do as well. That Pioneer unit is what is most often called an AVR (audio video receiver). Did you check the manual for details for conversion of composite to hdmi for that avr? Not all avrs will do that.

 

[TLS Guy]

I have no idea what this guy is trying to do. I'm not going to search that receiver manual. After all the trouble he has caused he can do that and find out if that receiver will convert the analog inputs to HDMI.

I have no idea why we are talking about a receiver and some POS Bose sound bar in the same system.

 

[Chris914]

That's not a stereo receiver in the usual sense. Really helps if you describe exact gear and what you're trying to do as well. That Pioneer unit is what is most often called an AVR (audio video receiver). Did you check the manual for details for conversion of composite to hdmi for that avr? Not all avrs will do that.

Sorry about the receiver/AVR confusion. To me they were mistakenly the same thing. Thanks for clarifying. I did look through the manual before and again just now. With my limited understanding I didn't see anything that described what I was hoping it would do. I did go to Best Buy and no one in the store could tell me if AVR's do that or not.

When I posted my question I was trying to keep it simple, like me I guess. I was just hoping that someone could tell me if any AVR would do what I asking.

The nice thing about the Bose is that it's wireless and we have it. I could put other wireless Bose speakers in the garage, the outside patio, the bedroom, or anywhere in the house. So if the AVR converts the PHONO IN to the HDMI OUT of the AVR I can send LP music anywhere I want with the Bose system.

Once again, thanks for your response.

 

[Chris914]

I have no idea what this guy is trying to do. I'm not going to search that receiver manual. After all the trouble he has caused he can do that and find out if that receiver will convert the analog inputs to HDMI.

I have no idea why we are talking about a receiver and some POS Bose sound bar in the same system.

Sorry for causing any trouble or grief, that was my intention.

 

[TLS Guy]

Sorry for causing any trouble or grief, that was my intention.

Now I understand what you are trying to do. Even if that cheaper AVR can send analog to the HDMI out, which I doubt, you will still not be able to do what you want.

The HDMI out is end output, that is to say it goes to a device like a TV that does not output a picture via HDMI only on same an audio return channel. Your Bose on the other hand is a pass through device and will require a handshake that your receiver HDMI out will not be able to give. HDMI is complex and the rules a rigorously enforced by the codes.

 

[lovinthehd]

Sorry about the receiver/AVR confusion. To me they were mistakenly the same thing. Thanks for clarifying. I did look through the manual before and again just now. With my limited understanding I didn't see anything that described what I was hoping it would do. I did go to Best Buy and no one in the store could tell me if AVR's do that or not.

When I posted my question I was trying to keep it simple, like me I guess. I was just hoping that someone could tell me if any AVR would do what I asking.

The nice thing about the Bose is that it's wireless and we have it. I could put other wireless Bose speakers in the garage, the outside patio, the bedroom, or anywhere in the house. So if the AVR converts the PHONO IN to the HDMI OUT of the AVR I can send LP music anywhere I want with the Bose system.

Once again, thanks for your response.

Briefly a receiver is a combination of a radio (now internet as well) tuner with a pre-amp and amp in one box; take away the radio/internet and it becomes an int3egrated amp. The old two channel receivers (stereo) were just audio and analog only, some modern stereo receivers have some digital management but can't think of any that incorporate hdmi for 2ch playback. Modern avrs incorporate switching for video signals as well as multi-ch soundtracks and bass management so are pretty different animals just sharing "receiver" in the name.

I glanced at the Pioneer LX101 basic manual just now and it indicates it will pass the composite video on thru hdmi but doesn't mention audio so I suspect not, that you just get to play audio thru the avr's connected speakers; the advanced manual is even less helpful from the look I took (and both manuals are poor IMO). I couldn't even tell you if any of the several avrs I have can do what you want without looking at each manual specifically, I've never had the need.

Bose stuff usually doesn't play well with standard audio/video components by design; they prefer you to stay within their little universe. If you connect your turntable with an appropriate phono stage/pre-amp to your Bose you can use your Bose to do what you want with records at least.