D+M Sold to Sound United! Polk, Def Tech, Denon, Marantz, Boston Acoustics Now Same Parent Co.

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WaynePflughaupt

WaynePflughaupt

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I guess that’s not as bad as Onkyo being owned by Gibson the guitar company?

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Wayne A. Pflughaupt
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

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I guess that’s not as bad as Onkyo being owned by Gibson the guitar company?

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt
I don't think Gibson owns Onkyo, but I think they have a majority share. And, of course Onkyo now owns and produces the Pio AVRs.

But, we have Samsung purchasing Harmon, now we have this.

Dang! We will see how this plays out, but in general, Yamaha may become the goto AVR in the near future. I do love Yammy AVRs, my previous AVR was Yammy and my friend still runs it for his 2 channel rig. My current AVR is an older Pio Elite.

So, that really seems to leave about 3 large AVR manufacturers! I guess 4 if you count Sony (not on my list for an AVR).
 
TheWarrior

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I guess that’s not as bad as Onkyo being owned by Gibson the guitar company?

Regards,
Wayne A. Pflughaupt
Lol! Can't quite tell but if anything Gibson only owns shares, not a majority. Onkyo and Pioneer reclaimed their AV biz
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

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Hopefully it means something good, not bad. When something is working, don't mess with it.
 
highfigh

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I don't think Gibson owns Onkyo, but I think they have a majority share. And, of course Onkyo now owns and produces the Pio AVRs.

But, we have Samsung purchasing Harmon, now we have this.

Dang! We will see how this plays out, but in general, Yamaha may become the goto AVR in the near future. I do love Yammy AVRs, my previous AVR was Yammy and my friend still runs it for his 2 channel rig. My current AVR is an older Pio Elite.

So, that really seems to leave about 3 large AVR manufacturers! I guess 4 if you count Sony (not on my list for an AVR).
Sony's ES models are still pretty good, but I lost interest with them when they lost their way years ago. While I like the longevity of their ES AVRs around 2003, I absolutely hated the remotes.

It's not news that D&M were being shopped but I think this may be a decent partnership- could have been Sparkomatic or Audiovox.

I just sold my first Yamaha AVR and a couple of the MusicCast pieces, as well as buying a WXC-50 for myself. I like them, so far- I would like for Yamaha to send the ID2 codes to the universal remote manufacturers, though. The WXC-50 and WXA-50 use the same codes as their AVRs, which means the OEM remote needs to be put in ID2 mode and all codes learned. The process isn't easy to find in the manual, either. However, I'm still in the learning phase. I would like another analog input on the MusicCast pieces.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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Normally, I would be astonished. But the way things are these day, I'm only surprised. :D

Next thing you know, Klipsch will buy them all. :D

Or maybe Samsung will buy them all. :eek: :D
 
TLS Guy

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This may not be a bad thing, if it allows D & M to have sound financial backing. D & M have been under financed for a period of years now. It has shown in their products being not quite finished, and in QA issues.

If Sound United short change their financial support of D & M then Yamaha will be left as the only receiver manufacturer worth considering.

I think it would be smart to choose D or M and not both. One should be canned in my view.

We need fewer better products, that are well thought out, dusted and above all reliable.
 
lovinthehd

lovinthehd

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This may not be a bad thing, if it allows D & M to have sound financial backing. D & M have been under financed for a period of years now. It has shown in their products being not quite finished, and in QA issues.

If Sound United short change their financial support of D & M then Yamaha will be left as the only receiver manufacturer worth considering.

I think it would be smart to choose D or M and not both. One should be canned in my view.

We need fewer better products, that are well thought out, dusted and above all reliable.
Dusted?

Brand recognition seemed to work out for D+M carrying both brands even though they seem to share a lot of components/features, but SU may change that. Hopefully you're right and SU will provide them with solid backing unlike the "financiers" who had D+M the last several years.

Definitely with you on the reliability thing, my Onkyo recently had the network/sound issue (and was repaired under the extended warranty).
 
MR.MAGOO

MR.MAGOO

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This may not be a bad thing, if it allows D & M to have sound financial backing. D & M have been under financed for a period of years now. It has shown in their products being not quite finished, and in QA issues.

If Sound United short change their financial support of D & M then Yamaha will be left as the only receiver manufacturer worth considering.

I think it would be smart to choose D or M and not both. One should be canned in my view.

We need fewer better products, that are well thought out, dusted and above all reliable.
I have not researched the history of Denon brand, however Marantz has a clear history in that it was founded in the 1950's by a person. Maybe a compromise is in order, merge both, call the new brand 'D&M' and make it a high quality brand? Just an idea.
 
slipperybidness

slipperybidness

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I don't think Gibson owns Onkyo, but I think they have a majority share. And, of course Onkyo now owns and produces the Pio AVRs.

But, we have Samsung purchasing Harmon, now we have this.

Dang! We will see how this plays out, but in general, Yamaha may become the goto AVR in the near future. I do love Yammy AVRs, my previous AVR was Yammy and my friend still runs it for his 2 channel rig. My current AVR is an older Pio Elite.
This may not be a bad thing, if it allows D & M to have sound financial backing. D & M have been under financed for a period of years now. It has shown in their products being not quite finished, and in QA issues.

If Sound United short change their financial support of D & M then Yamaha will be left as the only receiver manufacturer worth considering.

I think it would be smart to choose D or M and not both. One should be canned in my view.

We need fewer better products, that are well thought out, dusted and above all reliable.
Each company has such a long history, how would you choose which one to retire? That would likely spark some serious debates! I think I tend to agree with Mr Magoo, perhaps a merger would make more sense.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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I doubt they would cancel one (Denon or Marantz), as both have a place in the market and loyal following.

Some people prefer Denon because they feel it's more cost-effective. Some people prefer Marantz because they feel it's High-end. The new company will want to keep both sides happy.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
I doubt they would cancel one (Denon or Marantz), as both have a place in the market and loyal following.

Some people prefer Denon because they feel it's more cost-effective. Some people prefer Marantz because they feel it's High-end. The new company will want to keep both sides happy.
Too many models makes for bad quality. That was GM's problem.
 
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