Cable Routing Question ,will cause trouble if ?

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Steve M

Junior Audioholic
can i run my sub signal cable in the same conduit as my speaker cable belden 12 2 jacketed speaker wire from blue jean

and is coax the best option for sub signal 25 ft run ?
thanks
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
can i run my sub signal cable in the same conduit as my speaker cable belden 12 2 jacketed speaker wire from blue jean

and is coax the best option for sub signal 25 ft run ?
thanks
The answer is Yes, and Yes.
 
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Mr._Clark

Audioholic Samurai
This may not be especially helpful, but I can tell you one way NOT to do it.

I ran a pair of standard (non shielded) in-wall speaker wires from my receiver up through the front wall of my living room, through the attic, and down through the back wall to a pair of subs (SVS PC12 NSDs). One of the speaker wires on the back wall runs down the wall parallel to a power line that runs down to an outlet (the speaker wire and the power line both run in the same vertical passageway between a pair of studs). This sub (left) has a significant hum. The vertical run for the right sub is well away from any power lines, and it does not hum.

At first I thought it was ground loop hum, but I tried connecting the left sub to the same power outlet as the right sub, and it made no difference.

I'm planning to replace the speaker wire with RCA lines (Blue Jeans LC-1), and run the RCA line down in a different area so it is not so close to the power line.

I'm not sure if switching to RCA cable by itself would solve the problem. I suspect that running the RCA line right next to a power line for about 10 feet might be too much for the RCA to shield.

To be honest, so far I've been too lazy to replace and reroute the lines, so I just turn the power to the interfering outlet off (it's tied to a wall switch), which eliminates the hum. Somehow, every time I think about spending 4 hours frogging around with this, there is something else that sounds like more fun, and turning off the switch "wins."
 
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highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
This may not be especially helpful, but I can tell you one way NOT to do it.

I ran a pair of standard (non shielded) in-wall speaker wires from my receiver up through the front wall of my living room, through the attic, and down through the back wall to a pair of subs (SVS PC12 NSDs). One of the speaker wires on the back wall runs down the wall parallel to a power line that runs down to an outlet (the speaker wire and the power line both run in the same vertical passageway between a pair of studs). This sub (left) has a significant hum. The vertical run for the right sub is well away from any power lines, and it does not hum.

At first I thought it was ground loop hum, but I tried connecting the left sub to the same power outlet as the right sub, and it made no difference.

I'm planning to replace the speaker wire with RCA lines, and run the RCA line down in a different area so it is not so close to the power line.

I'm not sure if switching to RCA cable by itself would solve the problem. I suspect that running the RCA line right next to a power line for about 10 feet might be too much for the RCA to shield.

To be honest, so far I've been too lazy to replace and reroute the lines, so I just turn the power to the interfering outlet off (it's tied to a wall switch), which eliminates the hum. Somehow, every time I think about spending 4 hours frogging around with this, there is something else that sounds like more fun, and turning off the switch "wins."
NEVER run A/V cables parallel to power wiring unless you can maintain at least 12", preferably more. If the paths must cross, do it at a right angle.

Read the Blue Jeans document about the best cable for subwoofers- it should shed some light on the subject.
 
Littlefoott

Littlefoott

Audioholic Intern
can i run my sub signal cable in the same conduit as my speaker cable belden 12 2 jacketed speaker wire from blue jean

and is coax the best option for sub signal 25 ft run ?
thanks
if using monoprice cable get digital /subwoofer cable (cheapest option)
rg6 would be preferred for in wall runs as it has quad shielding but is a thicker cable
monoprice item # 2683 less then 10 bucks

I read that bluejeans cable has better connectors, but I only unplug my components a couple times a year so i'm not too worried
 
Speedskater

Speedskater

Audioholic General
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and is coax the best option for sub signal 25 ft run ?
thanks
Well a balanced interconnect systems is a better option.
But if that's not available, use a good coax like the above BJC LC-1.
Don't use the quad-shield coax that the cable TV guys use.
 
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