Marantz AV8802A pre amp Question 2 channel audio

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Steve M

Junior Audioholic
Just ordered a Marantz 8802a Pre amp ,For Multi zone use in 3 zones , 5.1 in main zone for HT
my question is for 2 channel audio
Does this thing control what i need to get the cleanest 2 channel audio or do i need a spereate amp

My plan with some help , was XPA gen 3, 7 channel for ht and audio
and a A700 for other zones ,
Will this do whats needed to isolate the front channels clean as good as getting a 2 channel amp just for 2 channel audio listening ? Sorry a little newbie at this and getting to pull trigger on amps this morning !!!
Thanks for help !!
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
From my experience it is better to use an AVR for HT and a separate 2 channel system for 2 channel music. My future replacement for my quickly outdated AV8801 will be an AVR or a low cost AVP.
 
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Steve M

Junior Audioholic
why out dated so fast ? I will be using it for multiple zone audio , but was Hoping to get the best of both worlds getting the newest model , this was my fear all along , my old 2 channel sounds great now, could have thrown an amp at it for awesome of the hook , This dam new TV ha s been just a curse for me
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
Outdated because new features come out fast, but future proofing is almost impossible with an AVR or Pre. AVR generally easier to replace than a Pre. My new one hasn't even shipped yet and they are already releasing the new HDMI 2.1 spec lol.

I use analog for music so pre or AVR matters significantly less, but I tend to prefer a simpler system for music only, though now I tend to listen to my main rig more for music.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
Outdated because new features come out fast, but future proofing is almost impossible with an AVR or Pre. AVR generally easier to replace than a Pre. My new one hasn't even shipped yet and they are already releasing the new HDMI 2.1 spec lol.

I use analog for music so pre or AVR matters significantly less, but I tend to prefer a simpler system for music only, though now I tend to listen to my main rig more for music.
I think this updating is a load of bunk now. 2K and the lossless codecs is all you need. I think you can aim to buy good gear and intend to keep it for the long haul.

In my main system I still have my Marantz 8003. The audio is fantastic in its realism. Sure it only had 4 HDMI inputs, but the Geffen switcher on one input gives me 6 for minimal inconvenience.

My 2K Panny Plasma gives a better picture than any 4K I have seen. My front row seats are at 12ft, so I would get zero benefit from 4K anyway.

The search for more features and streaming also makes no sense. You can easily add all the features you want upstream and add devices as program sources change and become available. I would never consider streaming from an AVR, pre/pro or TV any way. TVs, AVRs and pre/pros need to have design and materials go to core functions and not add ons and distractions.

My pre/pro still has excellent core functions and my power amps are real work horses. I have never used the smart functions of my TVs and never will. TVs just need to be set up and then just watched and all you need to benefit form it core functions is the on/off button.

I think this Atmos business is also absurd. Any sub par speaker added is a detriment. In the home there is no way you will set up that number of high quality speakers. I firmly believe all speakers need to be of comparable quality especially across the mid band or you focus on the odd man or men out like a laser beam.

Once a technology is reasonably mature I think the best advice is to buy for quality and longevity. Most of this push to upgrade is hype.

I think from the rumblings coming on now, upgrading to 4K and higher versions of HDMI is buying people trouble. The HDCP codes are much more complex and draconian now and the handshake rate is much higher. I note the new HDMI boards are now twice or more the cost of the old ones. This means more processing and more heat. Inside a receiver with amps, that means more failure is highly likely.

I have absolutely no intention of upgrading unless there is terminal failure of a unit. My picture quality is excellent and the sound absolutely of the highest order, with excellent 360 imaging from the 7.1 system.

Bottom line advice is to build the best highest quality system you can and be happy with it for the long term. That is cost effective and gives the maximum satisfaction.
 
j_garcia

j_garcia

Audioholic Jedi
I tend to keep my gear for a long time too. I'd still have my Marantz 8300 had it not been stolen. While new features may be neat, I haven't found that many that I actually need. HDMI 2.1 (or 2.0 for that matter) doesn't benefit me anyway either, because I probably won't buy a new TV this year. I also sit only about 11-12 ft away. I am still 5.1 despite having plenty more speakers lol.
 
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Steve M

Junior Audioholic
i am going from a carver HR 750 receiver and 2 speakers
MY old 500 lb back breaker 27 inch sony tv finally died and now , wow 65 inch curved Samsung , all was good till that the day that tv died . I think it was over 30 years old , so I got my moneys worth out of that tv (- :
Im sold on the new TV !! jury is out on new pre amp , amps ect ill have to get it all hooked up and see if its worth the $$$
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
I think this updating is a load of bunk now. 2K and the lossless codecs is all you need. I think you can aim to buy good gear and intend to keep it for the long haul.

In my main system I still have my Marantz 8003. The audio is fantastic in its realism. Sure it only had 4 HDMI inputs, but the Geffen switcher on one input gives me 6 for minimal inconvenience.

My 2K Panny Plasma gives a better picture than any 4K I have seen. My front row seats are at 12ft, so I would get zero benefit from 4K anyway.

The search for more features and streaming also makes no sense. You can easily add all the features you want upstream and add devices as program sources change and become available. I would never consider streaming from an AVR, pre/pro or TV any way. TVs, AVRs and pre/pros need to have design and materials go to core functions and not add ons and distractions.

My pre/pro still has excellent core functions and my power amps are real work horses. I have never used the smart functions of my TVs and never will. TVs just need to be set up and then just watched and all you need to benefit form it core functions is the on/off button.

I think this Atmos business is also absurd. Any sub par speaker added is a detriment. In the home there is no way you will set up that number of high quality speakers. I firmly believe all speakers need to be of comparable quality especially across the mid band or you focus on the odd man or men out like a laser beam.

Once a technology is reasonably mature I think the best advice is to buy for quality and longevity. Most of this push to upgrade is hype.

I think from the rumblings coming on now, upgrading to 4K and higher versions of HDMI is buying people trouble. The HDCP codes are much more complex and draconian now and the handshake rate is much higher. I note the new HDMI boards are now twice or more the cost of the old ones. This means more processing and more heat. Inside a receiver with amps, that means more failure is highly likely.

I have absolutely no intention of upgrading unless there is terminal failure of a unit. My picture quality is excellent and the sound absolutely of the highest order, with excellent 360 imaging from the 7.1 system.

Bottom line advice is to build the best highest quality system you can and be happy with it for the long term. That is cost effective and gives the maximum satisfaction.
If we all feel the same then we can all just get an av8003 and be happy forever, no need to sink $4k into the 8802a that will soon be superseded.
 
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gzubeck

Audioholic
I think this updating is a load of bunk now. 2K and the lossless codecs is all you need. I think you can aim to buy good gear and intend to keep it for the long haul.

In my main system I still have my Marantz 8003. The audio is fantastic in its realism. Sure it only had 4 HDMI inputs, but the Geffen switcher on one input gives me 6 for minimal inconvenience.

My 2K Panny Plasma gives a better picture than any 4K I have seen. My front row seats are at 12ft, so I would get zero benefit from 4K anyway.

The search for more features and streaming also makes no sense. You can easily add all the features you want upstream and add devices as program sources change and become available. I would never consider streaming from an AVR, pre/pro or TV any way. TVs, AVRs and pre/pros need to have design and materials go to core functions and not add ons and distractions.

My pre/pro still has excellent core functions and my power amps are real work horses. I have never used the smart functions of my TVs and never will. TVs just need to be set up and then just watched and all you need to benefit form it core functions is the on/off button.

I think this Atmos business is also absurd. Any sub par speaker added is a detriment. In the home there is no way you will set up that number of high quality speakers. I firmly believe all speakers need to be of comparable quality especially across the mid band or you focus on the odd man or men out like a laser beam.

Once a technology is reasonably mature I think the best advice is to buy for quality and longevity. Most of this push to upgrade is hype.

I think from the rumblings coming on now, upgrading to 4K and higher versions of HDMI is buying people trouble. The HDCP codes are much more complex and draconian now and the handshake rate is much higher. I note the new HDMI boards are now twice or more the cost of the old ones. This means more processing and more heat. Inside a receiver with amps, that means more failure is highly likely.

I have absolutely no intention of upgrading unless there is terminal failure of a unit. My picture quality is excellent and the sound absolutely of the highest order, with excellent 360 imaging from the 7.1 system.

Bottom line advice is to build the best highest quality system you can and be happy with it for the long term. That is cost effective and gives the maximum satisfaction.
Well for sure you wont have to upgrade your speakers for a long long time...what are those seas magnesium dome woofers. You probably sit around luxurating in that soundfield that you care less about the video. I currently own the sony 850c 55 inch lcd and Im very happy with it. I would wait a few more years until they have this hdr thing standardized anyways. My sony does a very good job of upconverting 1080p to 4k and that was the primary reason for the purchase. Im not even participating in the 4k bluray thing right now because my sony does a very good job of upconverting all those 1080p blurays Im buying for $5 bucks on sale. cheers.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Audioholic Jedi
If we all feel the same then we can all just get an av8003 and be happy forever, no need to sink $4k into the 8802a that will soon be superseded.
For me that is absolutely correct. I would get zero increase in significant performance by putting dollars into a new pre/pro, power amps or TV. In fact it would be a downgrade. HDMI has got to the point of ridiculous with its complexity of codes and above all the high repeater handshake rate.

My honest advice to everyone is to avoid updating to 4K at this time. More likely than not you will buy yourself trouble in spades.

The only item I have that I'm pondering an upgrade is my DAW. I built it in 2002. It still works perfectly and does all I need. However it has to run on XP. To move up to Windows 10, means a new DAW and operating system, plus replacing the RME Fireface 800 and buying the Windows 10 version of WaveLab. That is a very significant expenditure. However 15 years use out of a computer system is an excellent run. The only update was migrating from WaveLab 5 to WaveLab 6.
 
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