speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
I didn't mean I had quit for the night, I mean I had completely quit. Might have been a decent reason to start again, though.
I see. Personally, had decided to leave it alone since I am a diabetic. Sounds like you had your reasons as well. Did NOT mean to encourage you to do so. Just misread your post.

Cheers,

Phil
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
That is it! My Philippine family is having this on Saturday. What I like about it, the skin tastes exactly like bacon, parts of the lechon(pig) tastes like ham. Then, the butts taste like pulled pork! Hence, you get all (3) for the price of one! Looking forward to it! Really like the ham and bacon. Little burnt-out on the pulled pork thing....LOL!!!!

Cheers,

Phil
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
I had that in DR when I visited there as a kid. :) I only do Pork Chops once in a while. My friends says don't eat that swine. :D
 
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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
"Kosher" salt is simply same salt, but without additives
The size and shape of the salt crystals is a key difference. From your Wikipedia link:
"Rather than cubic crystals, kosher salt has a flat plate-like shape. Kosher salt may also have a hollow pyramidal shape."

The lack of iodine is also desirable. I use "Kosher" salt exclusively, both in the kitchen and for smoking/grilling meat, and have for some time. Now the iodine taste of regular table salt is quite offensive to me. It's like drinking well water. Now, chlorinated water in town tastes awful.
 
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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
One thing you must do if you have a smoker is flavor smoke steaks.
Try grilling over wood, not charcoal. Just let the wood burn down to coals, then grill. If you've never done it, you won't believe the difference.

The difference between charcoal and wood is comparable to the difference between gas and charcoal.
 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Where do you get a bun that's big enough for one of those?
You know the thing is, each and every time my Philippine family has a lechon (pig) there is NOTHING left. The ONLY thing left is practically the eyes and/or the teeth. Everything else is consumed. The skin tastes like bacon, but can be a bit tough to chew. Once things get going, most of the meat just comes right off. So tender and juicy. Can't wait until tomorrow afternoon ......YUMMY! ;);););)

Cheers,

Phil
 
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Don G.

Junior Audioholic
The key elements of offset smokers are size and mass. The objective is to get your meat chamber to 200-225 deg and hold it there for a long time. The smaller offset smokers require A LOT of attention to do it.

You need smaller pieces of wood because the firebox is small, and so the temp doesn't spike when you add it. The low mass of these smokers make them more susceptible to temp changes. And smaller pieces of wood mean more frequent adding. You can figure they'll need attention at least every 30 minutes. It is quite a commitment when doing a 12-hour butt or brisket.

The remedy is a bigger and heavier smoker. Mine is 1/4" steel and weighs 1500 lbs. I had the deck especially built to hold it. But it has a big firebox, (and a big meat chamber). That means bigger pieces of wood. The high mass means less change in temp when I add a piece or 2. I still have to tend to the fire every 45-60 minutes.

You CAN use charcoal for heat and wood for smoke in the smaller smokers, but the result is not the same as all wood.

These are the top 2 makers of real smokers: Klose and Gator.
http://www.bbqpits.com/
http://www.gatorpit.net/

Unless you're prepared to tackle BBQ w/ a commitment and enthusiasm that matches what you have to Audio, I'd suggest you stick w/ the Weber. They're a lot less work, you're already familiar, and they do a good job. I went through 3 Brinkmans before stepping up. I was happy and family/friends were pleased. You can think of the Weber/Brinkman as an AVR, and an offset as separates. ;)
I agree with most of what you said, but there are for sure more real smokers than Klose and Gator. Lang makes excellent smokers. Stumps are outstanding if you don't want a stick burner. And Jambo pits are probably better than all of them.
 
jliedeka

jliedeka

Audioholic General
For woods, I've been using mostly hickory for pork. I'm planning to try apple and cherry to see what a lighter flavor is like.

For beef, I use apple and cherry. I haven't tried oak but may try it for a tri-tip. I'm not a fan of mesquite.

For chicken, I've pretty exclusively used apple. May try cherry one of these days.

I know there are a lot other good hardwoods, I may end up trying pecan and some others one of these days.

If I had to live with only one hardwood, it would probably be cherry.

I've thought about getting an offset smoker. If I do, I'd probably be deciding between the Green Mountain and the more expensive MAK 1. For now, the PBC is serving me well.

Jim
 
lsiberian

lsiberian

Audioholic Overlord
Try grilling over wood, not charcoal. Just let the wood burn down to coals, then grill. If you've never done it, you won't believe the difference.

The difference between charcoal and wood is comparable to the difference between gas and charcoal.
We normally use wood. Oak as the fire wood. Pecan and Hickory for the flavor wood.
 
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Don G.

Junior Audioholic
For woods, I've been using mostly hickory for pork. I'm planning to try apple and cherry to see what a lighter flavor is like.

For beef, I use apple and cherry. I haven't tried oak but may try it for a tri-tip. I'm not a fan of mesquite.

For chicken, I've pretty exclusively used apple. May try cherry one of these days.

I know there are a lot other good hardwoods, I may end up trying pecan and some others one of these days.

If I had to live with only one hardwood, it would probably be cherry.

I've thought about getting an offset smoker. If I do, I'd probably be deciding between the Green Mountain and the more expensive MAK 1. For now, the PBC is serving me well.

Jim
Actually Green Mountain and MAK make Pellet Grills, not off-set smokers. If you want a pellet grill, check out Yoder or Memphis, competitive in price with the 1 Star General from MAK or RecTec as an alternative to the Green Mountain. They get really good reviews. I have a Memphis and use it more than any grill or smoker I have ever had. So easy to just walk out and push a button, set the temp and start cooking. Better flavor off the Big Joe, but a lot more work.
 
Swerd

Swerd

Audioholic Warlord
I use "Kosher" salt exclusively, both in the kitchen and for smoking/grilling meat, and have for some time.
I insist on using Kosher salt for pork bbq :D.
The difference between charcoal and wood is comparable to the difference between gas and charcoal.
As a life-long Weber charcoal man, I consider grilling with propane as a mortal sin. As it burns, it produces so much water vapor that you aren't so much grilling the meat as you are steaming it.
 
Dan

Dan

Audioholic Chief
Been too busy at work to reply. Still at work since seven am on this Saturday. Reposted from another thread. Here is MY smoked prime rib. Seven ribs on that baby. Smoked in oak to 135 internal. Perfect medium rare.

 
speakerman39

speakerman39

Audioholic Overlord
Been too busy at work to reply. Still at work since seven am on this Saturday. Reposted from another thread. Here is MY smoked prime rib. Seven ribs on that baby. Smoked in oak to 135 internal. Perfect medium rare.

Oh man get that medium well or even well-done and we are in business.....LOL!!! About ready for some more Prime Rib! Now I am hungry! ;);););)

Cheers,

Phil
 
highfigh

highfigh

Seriously, I have no life.
I insist on using Kosher salt for pork bbq :D.
As a life-long Weber charcoal man, I consider grilling with propane as a mortal sin. As it burns, it produces so much water vapor that you aren't so much grilling the meat as you are steaming it.
That's the reason gas grills have so many vents.

I have a Weber-style charcoal grill but I don't use it as often as I should- the gas grill is convenient and I don't have to find out that I'm out of charcoal when I need it. I make a packet of soaked wood chips (more of them, if it will take a long time) and the temperature is easily controlled. Purist? No, but I can't complain about the flavor, either. Ideally, I would have a grill with a separate fire box.
 
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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
Oh man get that medium well or even well-done and we are in business
We had a new roof and a bunch of work on the house a few years ago. Most of the workers were Mexicans. On the last day, for a "thank you", I smoked a prime rib for them. Medium rare, just like your picture.

When the guys lined up to be served, I was quite surprised to see their reaction was less than enthusiastic. They took lots of beans and potato salad, but none wanted more than a sliver of meat.

Then the (American) boss and his family came to the serving table. It was all "Oooohs" and "Ahhhhs". I asked him about the Mexicans. He told me they liked all their meat well done, and were real skeptical about any red color meat. Hell! I could have cooked them burgers... and saved a bunch of money.
 
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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
As a life-long Weber charcoal man, I consider grilling with propane as a mortal sin.
Agreed.
The priority is:
Wood
Wood coals
Lump charcoal
Gas
Oven/Stove

However, it's kind of like rating blonds, brunettes and redheads. Your least favorite can be wonderful, and your first choice can be a b1tch.
 
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