hello everyone I'm new to a lot of this and need help :(

KlipschFTW

KlipschFTW

Audioholic Intern
im all set up and my system sounds great but I have 2 major setbacks maybe they are possible maybe they are not. 1. My tv does not produce sound at all when my receiver is plugged in ( why is this?) and 2.Is there a way to set up my home audio to play tv when receiver is not on and play both when it is? I'm sure that's confusing, I'll gladly help whoever tries to help me!

Ps. I didn't buy Bose first, after research I found I liked klipsch ALOT and went that route.
 
KlipschFTW

KlipschFTW

Audioholic Intern
Ok so I am going cable box into Xbox one and Xbox one into tv with optical cord going to receiver with no avail. I get no sound from receiver, only from tv. Now if I go cable box, Xbox one, receiver, tv I get sound and picture but I don't want surround sound ALL THE TIME I have kids and the bass overwhelms the house. What I'm trying to do is watch tv, play games like normal and when it comes to movie time I can just turn on my receiver and BOOM surround sound. What am I missing? SOMEONE ANYONE PLEASE HELP
 
KenM10759

KenM10759

Audioholic Ninja
What TV do you have (make and specific model number) and/or do you know if it has an ARC (audio return channel) HDMI connection?

You do not want the TV speakers playing while the receiver is doing it's job, BTW.
 
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Latent

Full Audioholic
Some avr's have standby pass through option you can enable which will pass through a audio and video signal when the avr is powered off in standby mode and then you get tv sound only.

You can turn your receiver to output sound to tv as well as to speakers but this leads to really horrible sounding results if you don't mute the tv sound at the same time and your avr has to be powered up at low volume for this to work for tv only. May as well just adjust sound mode or settings to reduce bass or go 2 channel only etc.

The options available depend on the avr model you have.
 
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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
Here's what is preferable.
Every component is connected directly to your receiver. Your receiver acts like the traffic cop at an intersection. If you turn on only your TV, then only your TV plays, (with its own speakers). That's the way mine works.

Help would be easier if you told us exactly what components you have. It may be that your components don't support the most simple answer, and you'll need a workaround.
 
KenM10759

KenM10759

Audioholic Ninja
Well put, herbu.

Receivers and TV's today with the ARC feature make it really fluid too. Without knowing which components are in play here, no way to diagnose the problem.
 
KlipschFTW

KlipschFTW

Audioholic Intern
Hey sorry guys I ended up just going to bed. Currently I have a Samsung 42 lcd tv (yes it's old) that has no arc out I'm running a denon avrs510 with two klipsch bookshelf speakers and a reference 112 sub. I also have a newer Emerson 42in but it's poop lol. I do however plan on going 4K in the very near future on a much bigger tv. This is my game room so the wife is on my case about the money I've spent already lol
 
KlipschFTW

KlipschFTW

Audioholic Intern
And I'm running everything through hdmi. From cable box to Xbox one, Xbox to receiver, and receiver to tv. I have a monster optic cable that I ran from Xbox one to receiver but never got any sound? (This was when I was using the hdmi from Xbox one to tv only) When I tried to look up on the denon manual it showed nothing on how to use the optical port?
 
KlipschFTW

KlipschFTW

Audioholic Intern
Here's what is preferable.
Every component is connected directly to your receiver. Your receiver acts like the traffic cop at an intersection. If you turn on only your TV, then only your TV plays, (with its own speakers). That's the way mine works.

Help would be easier if you told us exactly what components you have. It may be that your components don't support the most simple answer, and you'll need a workaround.
So what you are saying is instead of running everything into each other I should run everything into the receiver?
 
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Latent

Full Audioholic
OK for your setup you will need to connect all sources you can via hdmi to the AVR. One hdmi output from AVR to the Tv. Now in your AVR make sure this setting is on

http://manuals.denon.com/AVRS510BT/NA/EN/UJDCSYpgaaiokq.php

This sets it so the last selected hdmi source will go straight to tv for audio/video playback when the avr is powered off in standby. Make sure you do not turn power off to avr at the wall to make this work.

Also looks like there is a setting below this one that sets which source to output to the tv when in standby. Probably best to set this to LAST. This means you can pick a source when the AVR is on and then turn it off to get sound out of TV only. On my Yamaha AVR the source selection buttons on the remote work in standby so you can change the input even when it is off but not sure if the Denon has this feature.

Finally connect a digital optical audio cable from your tv output to the back of your AVR. You may be able to configure in the AVR what input this gets assigned to as the label on the port may conflict with an existing hdmi input. This allows you to listen to your big speakers when playing something on your TV like through a built in tv tuner or something but if all your sources are hdmi connected to your avr then you may be able to skip this step.

Here is the setting in your avr to set where your optical input goes to:
http://manuals.denon.com/AVRS510BT/NA/EN/WBSPSYibawyncf.php#WBSPMLxamvpsoj
 
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herbu

Audioholic Samurai
So what you are saying is instead of running everything into each other I should run everything into the receiver?
Right. That's the beauty of HDMI. You have one HDMI cable from each component to your receiver... and you're done! You tell the receiver what you want to watch or listen to, and it handles all the communication between components.

One hitch... well, a couple hitches.
All your components must have HDMI connections.
Your receiver must have an HDMI connection for each component.
Your TV needs an ARC HDMI connection. (ARC means it handles 2-way communication... from your TV to your AVR, and from your AVR to your TV.)

Most all newer stuff has all this. Older stuff may not, meaning you have to revert to the old ways of additional cables.
 
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Don G.

Junior Audioholic
To your comment about not wanting surround all the time, you can easily switch the receiver output to Stereo only with one click of the remote. Run it like that when you don't want surround, then switch back to surround when you want to watch a movie.
 
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