Help with system!

[Woolysworld]

Well here it goes. I like listening to my rock and roll at insane volumes in my house. My stereo shuts down after a point when it gets to crazy levels. So what I have is a Yamaha RX-V465 AV Receiver 525 watt (105w x5)

I HAD a practically new pair of Polk Monitor 70 series 2 Tower speakers which were rated at 275w, I sold them last week. I have a Bose center speaker which I’m not sure of the watts. I think its 200w but when I was having problems I disconnected the Bose.

So now I bought a pair of Klisph Reference Dual 8” Floor standing speakers 600w peak 150 w continuous and also a pair of Klisph Reference 5 ¼” Bookshelf speakers 340w peak 85w continuous for the rear/back of my living room. I bought 12 gauge copper wire and I also bought a 5” electric fan for the receiver which is in a stereo cabinet. (I cut the back out of the cabinet where the receiver is for air to escape. So now I’m thinking of adding a sub.(Heard that may also help with my issue, not sure though) So on top of my issue with this I would also like some input on which one of the two subs that I picked to buy.

1) Polk Audio PSW505 12” powered sub 460w

2) Klisph SW-450 10” 450w.

 

[tyhjaarpa]

I would stay away from those said subs. What size is your room? What is your budget for sub? How much music / movies are used? With these informations we can find you better options.

Edit: btw you have posted in wrong section.

 

[Woolysworld]

I'm new at forums so I’m not surprised I posted in the wrong category.

Room size is 14'x25', music only no movies. I'm not rich so I need to stay within my means. I did decide to get the klisph 12" sub when I can. Maybe crazy levels is worded wrong. How about real loud.

 

[tyhjaarpa]

I'm new at forums so I’m not surprised I posted in the wrong category.

Room size is 14'x25', music only no movies. I'm not rich so I need to stay within my means. I did decide to get the klisph 12" sub when I can. Maybe crazy levels is worded wrong. How about real loud.

What is your budget for sub? Even for lower budget there are options that are worth to look at.

 

[markw]

All receivers have their limits and I think you've found yours.

BTW, that "105 watts" is misleading. What they mean that when only two channels are driven, they both will put out that number. If you drive all channels, that number goes down drastically.

I'm glad you asked for advice on a sub and then ignored it.

 

[TheWarrior]

Well here it goes. I like listening to my rock and roll at insane volumes in my house. My stereo shuts down after a point when it gets to crazy levels. So what I have is a Yamaha RX-V465 AV Receiver 525 watt (105w x5)

I HAD a practically new pair of Polk Monitor 70 series 2 Tower speakers which were rated at 275w, I sold them last week. I have a Bose center speaker which I’m not sure of the watts. I think its 200w but when I was having problems I disconnected the Bose.

So now I bought a pair of Klisph Reference Dual 8” Floor standing speakers 600w peak 150 w continuous and also a pair of Klisph Reference 5 ¼” Bookshelf speakers 340w peak 85w continuous for the rear/back of my living room. I bought 12 gauge copper wire and I also bought a 5” electric fan for the receiver which is in a stereo cabinet. (I cut the back out of the cabinet where the receiver is for air to escape. So now I’m thinking of adding a sub.(Heard that may also help with my issue, not sure though) So on top of my issue with this I would also like some input on which one of the two subs that I picked to buy.

1) Polk Audio PSW505 12” powered sub 460w

2) Klisph SW-450 10” 450w.

So you bought the RF-82? Have you tried setting the speakers to Large on your receiver, so that they receive a full range signal?

Those speakers are quite capable in the bass department, and I would not recommend any Klipsch or Polk sub to pair with them, as the RF-82's will cover most of the same range. To match with those towers, you will need to set aside a much larger budget for a good sub. Unfortunately, subs are expensive, if you want them to sound good!

 

[Woolysworld]

Markw. Advice is just that, advice. What I do with it is my prerogative. Thank you for your input.



The Warrior, I was told that if I added a sub that would help with the issue of the stereo cutting off at high volumes. I don't even care to hook one up if I don't need to. Someone told me that my receiver is not the right one. I'm not using the system for movies just music. So I have the two RF-82 for the front but I also bought a pair of Klisph 5 1/4" bookshelf speakers for the rear. Should I just return them to best buy? This is all foreign to me and I have a slight learning disability but when I get it sorted out I'm sure it will be kick ass.

 

[fmw]

A subwoofer is never necessary but almost always important. Not only will it add to the dynamics of your music but it will also reduce the power dissipation of your speakers because the sub has its own amplification. Systems that won't benefit from a subwoofer are very rare.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Markw. Advice is just that, advice. What I do with it is my prerogative. Thank you for your input.

100% Agreed. It's worth mentioning that in addition to that, it is our prerogative not to provide you with pat on the back for choices you have made, should you, like many others before you ,seek for such approval AFTER you've made your own choices.

As for the choices themselves - while Klipsch speakers may not be my personal fav, in your case - listening to rock at loud volumes - They could be a very good fit if you keeping existing receiver since they will much louder without need for more power than your current yamaha can provide.

As for sub, Klipsch made sub - are one of worst choices you could've possibly done. My advice - and you should feel free to ignore it, is to return it that pos and wait a bit longer then you have a bit more disposable income saved up

 

[Woolysworld]

I never asked for a PAT on the back just advise that's all.


What would be a decent sub since I didn't buy one yet? And if my current receiver is suitable then what about the Klisph bookshelf speakers I bought for the rears? I was going to hang them on the wall. Is that still doable or should I not hook them up? The main issue to my problem in the beginning was the stereo shutting down at high volumes.

 

[fmw]

I never asked for a PAT on the back just advise that's all.


What would be a decent sub since I didn't buy one yet? And if my current receiver is suitable then what about the Klisph bookshelf speakers I bought for the rears? I was going to hang them on the wall. Is that still doable or should I not hook them up? The main issue to my problem in the beginning was the stereo shutting down at high volumes.

I don't recommend products I haven't used myself but the group here will recommend a sub from one of the internet direct manufacturers such as Hsu, SVS, PSA and so forth. That makes sense to me as well.

The bookshelf speakers will do just fine. You can use one per channel. I'm virtually certain that the subwoofer will correct your power problem.

 

[tyhjaarpa]

If you are listening music only I would return those book shelf speakers and use that money towards the sub. Yet you still havent given us budget for sub, we cant recommend anything untill we know what is your budget.

 

[shadyJ]

Your Klipsch speakers may be an easier load to drive than the Polk speakers, and may be less prone to shutting down your receiver. As for the sub, for your listening tastes I would spring for a live sound sub, like one of these things. They will get much, much louder than the Polk or Klipsch subs, neither of which are worth owning. After installing and dialing in the sub into your system, that will take an additional load off your receiver amp, as it will not be tasked with driving lower bass in the speakers. The higher your place the crossover setting for the sub in the AVR, the less work your receiver amp has to do.

 

[Woolysworld]

Thank you. My budget would be $300.00ish for the sub.
So if I want to connect the rears I would just use a two channel setup and hook one front and one read to each channel then set the room size to small to ease the load on the receiver? Then find a decent sub which I will get just need to find the right one. Those svs's are nice but way out of my range.

 

[shadyJ]

Thank you. My budget would be $300.00ish for the sub.
So if I want to connect the rears I would just use a two channel setup and hook one front and one read to each channel then set the room size to small to ease the load on the receiver? Then find a decent sub which I will get just need to find the right one. Those svs's are nice but way out of my range.

Not sure what you mean here. If you want to connect the rears, you will need a surround sound setup, not a two channel setup. Follow your receiver's manual. When you get the subwoofer, set the speakers to small, even if they are tower speakers. The SVS subs are nice, but many of the live sound subs I linked to can get much louder.

 

[tyhjaarpa]

For 300ish you can get 2x Dayton sub1200 or sub1500.

 

[Woolysworld]

Not sure what you mean here. If you want to connect the rears, you will need a surround sound setup, not a two channel setup. Follow your receiver's manual. When you get the subwoofer, set the speakers to small, even if they are tower speakers. The SVS subs are nice, but many of the live sound subs I linked to can get much louder.

This is where I get confused. I was told a two channel setup is what I want for the issue I was having.

I was told that a two channel setup will help not to cut the amp off. So I can have it hooked as a surround sound and crank it up real loud? I'm definitely getting a sub now.

Here is what I would like.

My Yamaha RX-V465 AV Receiver,

Two front Klisph which I already own rf-28 for the front.

A powered sub I’m guessing which I will get.

My two Klisph bookshelf speakers which I will mount on the rear wall.

I want to play it loud at times. Not all the time but if a good pink Floyd song come on I want to jam. Without the stereo shutting down..

That would be my goal.

 

[markw]

This is where I get confused. I was told a two channel setup is what I want for the issue I was having.

I was told that a two channel setup will help not to cut the amp off. So I can have it hooked as a surround sound and crank it up real loud?

Who fed you this load of crap?

 

[TheWarrior]

This is where I get confused. I was told a two channel setup is what I want for the issue I was having.

I was told that a two channel setup will help not to cut the amp off. So I can have it hooked as a surround sound and crank it up real loud? I'm definitely getting a sub now.

Here is what I would like.

My Yamaha RX-V465 AV Receiver,

Two front Klisph which I already own rf-28 for the front.

A powered sub I’m guessing which I will get.

My two Klisph bookshelf speakers which I will mount on the rear wall.

I want to play it loud at times. Not all the time but if a good pink Floyd song come on I want to jam. Without the stereo shutting down..

That would be my goal.

Perfect. Just save up at least $1k and get a pair of subs from any of the Internet Direct manufacturers.

It seems silly that we always recommend this, but it's a failure of the industry to only provide the best value for dollar from a website! So SVS and HSU etc always get brought up. Cause they're good, and when something does fail, they all have a good reputation for fixing it!

 

[Woolysworld]

Who fed you this load of crap?

Someone who said they knew what they were talking about.