Advice on my new setup

[Seth=L]

27 lbs he did, as far as I know. By the way, on this topic I think you and fmw may want to lean towards the middle a little.

I'm dense, that confuses me. fmw hasn't posted in this thread.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I'm pretty sure you never ran those on a 20 pound receiver.

I used the Denon 3312 on the 802 Diamond. Sounded great to me at regular volume, which is about 85-90dB.

 

[PENG]

I'm dense, that confuses me. fmw hasn't posted in this thread.

No, that's why I said on this topic, not thread. Topic: need for power blablabla......

 

[PENG]

I used the Denon 3312 on the 802 Diamond. Sounded great to me at regular volume, which is about 85-90dB.

That weighs 27 lbs right?

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

That weighs 27 lbs right?

11.8 kg (26 lbs).

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I remember when I had the NHT SuperZero bookshelf speakers. For 2.1 stereo music, I never heard distortion even at 90dB volume. But for movies 5.1, sometimes I would hear the "crackle" sound on dialogues at high volume.

When I changed my NHT system to Def Tech, the center was the CLR3000, which was much more dynamic than the little NHT SuperZero. Same 50WPC HK AVR. Same movies. I don't think I ever heard those crackle noise again. I think the minimum impedance on the CLR3000 was about 3 ohms.

So I usually don't blame the amp first. I usually blame the source or the speakers first.

NHT makes accurate speakers. So I just think the problem was the lack of dynamics in those little speakers to handle certain compressed soundtracks at high volume.

 

[PENG]

I remember when I had the NHT SuperZero bookshelf speakers. For 2.1 stereo music, I never heard distortion even at 90dB volume. But for movies 5.1, sometimes I would hear the "crackle" sound on dialogues at high volume.

When I changed my NHT system to Def Tech, the center was the CLR3000, which was much more dynamic than the little NHT SuperZero. Same 50WPC HK AVR. Same movies. I don't think I ever heard those crackle noise again. I think the minimum impedance on the CLR3000 was about 3 ohms.

So I usually don't blame the amp first. I usually blame the source or the speakers first.

I hear you. To me, sound signature such as warm, cold etc., can be subjective but audible distortions are not. So we should get as much facts and data as possible first, do whatever analysis appropriate, before we assign root cause(s).

 

[fmw]

I'm dense, that confuses me. fmw hasn't posted in this thread.

There you go. Feel better now? I make fun of the audiophile myths about amplifier power because they are myths. Few audiophiles have any idea of the amount of power they actually dissipate. The manufacturers and reviewers drive the concept of striving for more. It has been going on for as long as I've been involved in audio which is more than 1/2 a century. There is no economic incentive to develop realistic parameters. As I have said many times, amplifier power is one of the least important aspects of home audio. Most powerful amplifiers are purchased because they are wanted, not because they are needed. But I'm pretty much all alone out here being shouted down by the industry.