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Ptide15

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I just purchased a new Samsung 8500 series 4k tv. I have a Denon avr1910 with the klipsch quintet surrounds with a klipsch 450ca center channel and a 12 inch sub. My question is do I buy a new denon 4200 or do I get the 2 klipsch 280 series towers. My setup up is mostly for tv and movies.

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TheWarrior

TheWarrior

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Get the speakers! You won't notice what you're missing without them!
 
KEW

KEW

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I just purchased a new Samsung 8500 series 4k tv. I have a Denon avr1910 with the klipsch quintet surrounds with a klipsch 450ca center channel and a 12 inch sub. My question is do I buy a new denon 4200 or do I get the 2 klipsch 280 series towers. My setup up is mostly for tv and movies.

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Definitely get the mains. The 1910 has enough power to do justice with Klipsch speakers. As a matter of fact, I'd use the 1910 until some new gotta-have-it, whiz-bang feature forced my hand to upgrade. The new models of AVR's are just getting more feature-rich. In the meantime, the AVR-1910 will give you fine sound quality.

PS - turn on Audyssey Dynamic EQ if you haven't tried it yet. YMMV, but most of us prefer it (with Dynamic Volume turned off).
 
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Ptide15

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The reason I ask the 1910 don't pass through 4k

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KEW

KEW

Audioholic Overlord
The reason I ask the 1910 don't pass through 4k

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I'm not much of a video guy, but my understanding is that 4K is still being introduced and there is not much content out there and the demos you see at stores do not represent what you are liable to stream into your home for the near future.
I'll defer to BMXTRIX who stays on top of this stuff:
A big thing to understand is that in stores, they are often using 4K content which has been optimized to deliver the absolute best it can possibly be with punchy colors and very high encoding rates for the absolute best possible image.

This many people are comparing to their Comcast cable TV signal at home.

Or worse... Streaming from Netflix.

Garbage in, garbage out, should be the first level mantra. Blu-ray Disc currently offers the absolute best quality image available to your display right now, and that comes from 30Mb/s encoded video. Any 4K streams are typically 7Mb/s, maybe a bit faster, but nowhere near what Blu-ray is giving us.

So, no source content is an issue. A big one. Once you leave that specially created demo, you are feeding your TV the same junk you are already looking at.

But, a better TV with solid contrast, good brightness, good black levels, great shadow detail, etc. may very well be an upgrade to whatever you happen to be currently looking at.

I have a upper mid-level Samsung plasma which replaced a Pioneer plasma. The Samsung looks very good, and I've seen nothing which looks clearly better than it.

Still, I would consider going from my 64" diagonal to a 80"+ sized diagonal that looked good.
So my take-away is you have a nice state-of-the-art-ish TV (aside from uber-expensive options). The fact that it is 4K capable may become relevant over the next few years, but this year, enjoy the great picture quality of that Samsung. If wanting the optimal experience, look for Blu-Rays, not 4K content!
 
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PENG

Audioholic Slumlord
The reason I ask the 1910 don't pass through 4k

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It may be cheaper to get a player that has two HDMI outputs. On the other hand the 4200 is a very nice unit to have and it will do everything for you, except for making your coffee, apparently.
 
billg71

billg71

Audioholic Intern
The reason I ask the 1910 don't pass through 4k

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I'd say go for the speakers especially since you don't have front L/R.

I have the Samsung(48JS8500) and the video upscaling is very good on it given a decent signal. There isn't a lot of 4K source material except streaming and the apps on the Samsung are better at that than a Roku 4(as an example). Right now there aren't any 4K players or discs, Sony is releasing a few remastered titles sometime in early 2016 and Samsung(maybe others) are planning on announcing players at CES for delivery whenever.

Unless you have a higher-end BluRay player(like an Oppo) that upscales to 4K you're not going to get better than the Samsung conversion so you might as well stick with your existing receiver until 4K HDR is ready for prime time. Wait a year or so for the format battle to shake out and 4K discs/players to become somewhat affordable then upgrade the AVR, buy a 4K HDR player and some movies you might actually want to watch. In the meantime enjoy what you have and keep your money in your pocket.

I wish I'd taken my own advice but hindsight is always 20/20, eh? :(
 
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