4K panels "Stupid, Dumb"

[bonejob]

Problem for me is that those OLED screens are so small.

Gee, I guess "small" is relative. I live in a modest mid-century home; not large, but not exactly tiny either, and my 55" OLED fits my living room ideally both architecturally and in terms of viewing distance. I guess 60" would still work, but 72" would have been impractical. In terms of size, I don't feel deprived at all, and the image quality is simply superb.

My OLED was quite pricey; for the money, I could have purchased a nice 72" LED or a 60" 4k UHD and come home with hundreds in change, but my living room doesn't demand that big, and bottom line - image quality mattered more to me.

 

[fmw]

My own opinion is that being an early adopter is usually a bad idea. In time the new technologies become standard and are better while being less expensive. I think my next TV will probably be 4k mostly because 1080 will be obsolete. I have a perfectly good 1080 TV now that plays everything available as well as it can be played. I'm pleased as punch with it. I'm not an early adopter. See you in a few years after my current TV wears out.

 

[lsiberian]

Gee, I guess "small" is relative. I live in a modest mid-century home; not large, but not exactly tiny either, and my 55" OLED fits my living room ideally both architecturally and in terms of viewing distance. I guess 60" would still work, but 72" would have been impractical. In terms of size, I don't feel deprived at all, and the image quality is simply superb.

My OLED was quite pricey; for the money, I could have purchased a nice 72" LED or a 60" 4k UHD and come home with hundreds in change, but my living room doesn't demand that big, and bottom line - image quality mattered more to me.

I just can't go back down to 55" No way I'd pay 4k for a TV when I can get a high end projector for the same price. Once they get into the 90 inch range and come down in price I'll definitely be interested. Kinda crazy how 10 years ago a 27" TV was a big deal. FWIW OLEDs are widely used in cellphones.

 

[bonejob]

I just can't go back down to 55" No way I'd pay 4k for a TV when I can get a high end projector for the same price. Once they get into the 90 inch range and come down in price I'll definitely be interested. Kinda crazy how 10 years ago a 27" TV was a big deal. FWIW OLEDs are widely used in cellphones.

I said my OLED was pricey, but I certainly didn't pay $4,000 for it! And for most people, 90" is ridiculous! For most people, even if they have the money, they just don't have the room! I therefore would say you are an outlier, because you apparently have BOTH!

As for projectors, I have yet to be very impressed by them.

 

[Ras777]

I think buying a 4K TV under 70" right now does not make much sense. However a high quality 4K projector with 4K content will most likely be impressive.

 

[billg71]

I just recently upgraded to a Samsung 48JS8500 and I have to admit I'm not overly impressed with 4K alone.

But throw in HDR and it's a game-changer. There's a whole new world out there in TV land. We just need source material.

 

[Auditor55]

Gee, I guess "small" is relative. I live in a modest mid-century home; not large, but not exactly tiny either, and my 55" OLED fits my living room ideally both architecturally and in terms of viewing distance. I guess 60" would still work, but 72" would have been impractical. In terms of size, I don't feel deprived at all, and the image quality is simply superb.

My OLED was quite pricey; for the money, I could have purchased a nice 72" LED or a 60" 4k UHD and come home with hundreds in change, but my living room doesn't demand that big, and bottom line - image quality mattered more to me.

If you purchased a 72" LED or a 60 inch 4K LED over an OLED, you're going to take a hit in picture quality.

 

[bonejob]

Well, that was certainly my judgment. The difference was obvious. But then, I try to evaluate television picture quality with a photographer's eye. I don't think everyone else does. But in the end people will buy what they like, using whatever yardsticks they value most.

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[Auditor55]

Well, that was certainly my judgment. The difference was obvious. But then, I try to evaluate television picture quality with a photographer's eye. I don't think everyone else does. But in the end people will buy what they like, using whatever yardsticks they value most.

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Why do you attribute the difference to resolution? Science say's there a limit to our eye sight that prevents us from seeing the difference in resolution at a certain distance.

http://carltonbale.com/does-4k-resolution-matter/

There is a screen/distance calculator based the resolution of your display at the bottom of the page.

 

[bonejob]

I DON'T attribute the difference to resolution. Have you been following this thread? Resolution has a part. But just as important - if not more so - is contrast and fine gradations of luminance. This is one of the great strengths of OLED screen technology. Another is black level retention; OLED is FAR superior in this area; it's not even close.

Just about any halfway decent HDTV these days has adequate resolution. The differences between a good TV and a superior one lie in contrast, black level retention, color accuracy and subtlety.

I would rather have a 1080p OLED than any of the 4K sets I've seen so far. Resolution is at least 3rd or 4th down the line in my criteria for what I think is important.

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[KEW]

Yeah, that's one of the prices I pay for avoiding drugs and alcohol. I never get to experience an "enhanced" world.

All I got to say is: "Kodachrome", "Klipsch", and "silicone implants"!!!

 

[Irvrobinson]

All I got to say is: "Kodachrome", "Klipsch", and "silicone implants"!!!

Kodachrome isn't all that enhanced (unnatural color saturation), that's Fujichrome.

 

[KEW]

Kodachrome isn't all that enhanced (unnatural color saturation), that's Fujichrome.

I stand corrected! I always thought that's what the Paul Simon song was about. The vividness that is.

 

[Auditor55]

LG's 2016 TVs include its first production 8K set
LG is hoping to one-up its TV rivals with both improved HDR colors and an 8K model.

http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/02/lg-8k-tv/

 

[Seth=L]

FWIW OLEDs are widely used in cellphones.

I've noticed the display models at my local Best Buy of Samsung phones with OLED displays suffer from image retention or burn-in.