Interstellar (2014) Bluray will it be muffled or not?

AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

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Stellar soundtrack in "Gravity" but no way in real life would they shoot up a person into space with that much "personal baggage". For that reason alone, I hated the flick :(
Yeah, "Gravity" doesn't do anything for me.

IMO "Gravity" is not even close to being as good as "Interstellar" in terms of plot, character development, and setting.

I have no desire to own "Gravity" BD.

If Christopher Nolan releases an "Interstellar" extended edition BD, I would want to own it too.
 
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andyblackcat

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The dialogue track is fine no problems. The loudest moments I reduce the fader down a so many -db to make it comfortable as music or sound effects depending on frequency I'll easy back a little but otherwise its a better mix than Inception.



Its emotional touching story between Cooper and Murph, when Han Zimmer score gently underscores softly.



Chapter 9 leaving the solar system the levels on the SDDS was great on this Dolby film mix (dtsHDMA 5.1 with PLIIx)

The seats vibrating and pinning back into the seat for the ride. :)
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
I received my BD of Interstellar yesterday and played it yesterday. It is a stunning sound track. As you know that star turn is really the Harrison and Harrison organ in the Temple Church at the Inns of Court in London.

I was in that Church for the wedding of my niece Katherine, 1O days ago. So I had a chance to hear that organ extensively first hand. I took these pictures of the instrument.



The "subwoofer" section of the instrument.



The wedding was 3:30 PM. At 3:30 Roger Sayer launched into one of the great monumental Fugues of J.S. Bach. He gave a wonderful 20 minute recital, all Bach. He belongs to the "get up and go school" of Bach performance and had everyone toe tapping. No one else before or after Bach can come close to matching him in compositions for the organ, or even everything else for that matter.

The bride was 10 minutes late coming down the aisle so Roger went to the French repertory. There was frequent use of soft 32 ft sustained pedal. This you could not hear, it just produced strange vibrations throughout your body. This effect is used quite frequently in the movie. My rig reproduces this perfectly from the sound track.

Katherine, who has been a pretty good percussionist and knows the literature well chose a most unusual processional, that even Roger Sayer had never had requested before. She asked for an organ transcription of the finale of Stravinsky's Firebird suite. This was incredibly effective as she walked down the aisle.




The music built and built as she progressed to a deafening crescendo as she reached the transept. I would recon it was in the neighborhood of 110 db at least.

The organ showed how controlled and subtle it could be accompanying Amy Hayworth of the Tallis scholars in Handle's 'Ere Where you Walk from Semele, Vivaldi's Nulla in Mundi Pax Sincera, and Bach's Jesu Joy of Man's desiring. She had a wonderful Mezzo range and filled the whole Church to a high db level with no amplification.

The organ accompanied the hymns and let rip in the recessional, which was Bach's Prelude and Fugue in G major BWV 541.

The Carter clan at the wedding in Temple Church.



Temple Church is an Extra Diocesan Royal Peculiar, and under direct control of the Sovereign, the Queen.

Katherine was able to get married there, because she is a barrister with chambers at the Inns of Court, actually right opposite Temple Church. However it required the permission of the Lord Chief justice, and the Archbishop of Canterbury whose signature is also on her marriage certificate. When the pastor handed it to her at the end of the ceremony, he said "This is the receipt for your husband!"

Anyhow I got to hear this organ in the Church, played by Roger Sayer, who plays the soundtrack for the movie.

Now back to the movie. For the sound track this organ has been very faithfully captured. The subtle 32ft soft pedals perfectly captured. In the corn filed scene near the beginning the organ is well captured in full cry.

The organ is used extensively in the Sound track, it really is the star.

The sound track is in no way muffled, they is good sound clarity even in the loud passages.

This movie has stunning sound effects, rockets taking off, going though worms and black holes etc. There is a sudden dramatic flash and transient explosion where someone opens a hatch they should not have, that will make you jump out of your skin.

I set the volume where I could comfortable hear the dialog. This gave good conversational speech. On my rig this was -16 db. I used no compression and made no further adjustments during the movie.

The bass output is colossal. I know no other sound track that can compare.

I'm not surprised this blows up sound systems.

My theater chair was literally bouncing up and down.

I'm glad to report that this system handled it effortlessly, with no amp more than pleasantly warm at the end of the movie. I was never worried for the integrity of my audio system, but I was concerned for the structural integrity of my house at times. I'm certain I could blow out a wall and or window, with this sound track, so be careful.

The story I have to say is on the bazaar order, and stretches Einsteins theory of relativity beyond credulity.

I suspect ultimately this is a movie that will be known for its sound track, rather than the story.

To that end a concert performance of the sound track was given in the Royal Albert Hall this last Monday, with the composer Hans Zimmer conducting, and Roger Sayer playing the mighty "Voice of Jupiter". (The organ of the RAH which is the master piece of "Father" Henry Willis).



The Hall and organ were the gift of Queen Victoria in memory of her husband price Albert, both fine musicians.

The organ was inaugurated by the great Austrian composer and organist, Anton Bruckner in 1878.

My brother James got a personal invitation from Roger Sayer to attend the event.

Now I suspect this instrument has a lot to do with two organs featuring prominently in movie sound tracks this past year. The RAH is not just a concert hall, but used for a large number of diverse events, including a lot of rock concerts. Of late rock musicians have taken to making extensive use of the organ instead of electric keyboards. They have found this instrument outclasses them in every way, especially in versatility and even spl.

So I expect the virtues of the pipe organ becoming known outside the classical music community has everything to do with this trend.
 
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andyblackcat

Audioholic General
TLS Guy, Nice view from you're prescriptive of the film.

Surprisingly short end credits for a huge blockbuster of 5mins 4secs.

Interstellar (2014) Chapter 9, wormhole. The lows pressing on my body and vibrating the seats.

LCR (MIX) THX

 
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3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
TLS Guy, Nice view from you're prescriptive of the film.

Surprisingly short end credits for a huge blockbuster of 5mins 4secs.

Interstellar (2014) Chapter 9, wormhole. The lows pressing on my body and vibrating the seats.

LCR (MIX) THX

I can hardly wait to play this and feel my sub pound my chest.
 
TLS Guy

TLS Guy

Seriously, I have no life.
TLS Guy, Nice view from you're prescriptive of the film.

Surprisingly short end credits for a huge blockbuster of 5mins 4secs.

Interstellar (2014) Chapter 9, wormhole. The lows pressing on my body and vibrating the seats.

LCR (MIX) THX

Thank you for those kind words. Yes, this is the audio track that tops them all, no doubt about it.

I think this will be the yardstick from here on out. I suspect a lot of equipment failures as people really try to get the full effects. I suspect this will mainly be related to subs, but I suspect other parts of systems may also bite the dust.

I think the dialog issue comes from the balance. The dialog is fine, but at the correct level for dialog the bass is tremendous. It will drive a lot of systems beyond their limits and then some.

I suspect on a lot of systems people will have to up the dialog level to prevent their systems running out of headroom.

I think people will have to treat this soundtrack with respect, otherwise they may be facing repairs or replacement.

Be advised this is a long way from the average movie sound track.
 
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andyblackcat

Audioholic General
Further analysis with muting of channels with the SDDS. Chapter 16, some of the scenes has music on centre at times but mostly on left/right and surrounds.

Some centre has high music frequency just as Doctor Mann, docks with the spaceship. Its hard to say it sounds/looks to be around 2KHz but at very low level some -60db down.

The dialogue is coming though solid here.

Just as Mann, attempts to override the airlock control the explosion/decompression on centre about roughly -4.4db away from OVER on the SDDS reference levels.

When Cooper, goes for docking score mix fades into centre along with dialouge effects.

Only few non human dialogue pans with "TARS" on stage right at earlier scene after launch on chapter 6.

The music organ on chapter 16, is a bit +db higher on left/right and surrounds.

Anyone got an AVR with dynamicEQ Dolby Volume. I had DynamicEQ on my Behringer DCX2496 as well limiters compressor.

Got a limiter/compressor on Behringer MDX4600 but x1 is not enough as I'd need a few of them. (x3 for digital 8ch) and (x2 for analogue 6ch) to balance levels in way so I won't notice too much difference when switching from Digital to Analogue.

Well the loudness that this has played at no snags as I got my eyes on the Spectrum Lab though THX professional.

The frequency response isn't special its as common as most films expect for loudness of that frequency but Interstellar isn't a 10Hz film. Its mostly 20Hz to 10KHz? I not seen or yet heard anything that shows up TrueRTA (expect for a few films).



Watch the surrounds on launch they reach down to 20Hz. No sweat on my JBL 8330 mkII (THX).

I'd like a TARS hands helper with the vacuum cleaning would be helpful. :D
 
SurvivalDad

SurvivalDad

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Maybe true but the film was done well for what it was. And the soundtrack was awesome!
 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
How does the bass in this flick compare to that 30 second blip at the starting of "Live, Die, and Repeat" in terms of extension and loudness?
 
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andyblackcat

Audioholic General
3db, you should know that All films are not mixed equally they are all different from one and other.
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
Andy how about some video with the bass heavy parts with your sub? :)
 
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andyblackcat

Audioholic General
At most its Spectrum Lab 90Hz mild acoustical level. 160/200/250 on TrueRTA.
 
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andyblackcat

Audioholic General
Masked off the imax as its a format (with some black card framed over the SCOPE ratio) I don't really like imax with annoying aspect ratio switching between short or long scenes its visually distracting.


Normal scope scene


Normal scope scene.


imax switching its not shifting as like the slow blood stain on captain Kirk, uniform in STAR TREK II. This is annoying switching.


Normal scope scene now masked with black cardboard top/bottom over the scope black boarders as SCOPE is my favorite format.


Normal scope scene now masked with black cardboard top/bottom.


Normal scope scene now masked with black cardboard top/bottom.











 
3db

3db

Audioholic Slumlord
3db, you should know that All films are not mixed equally they are all different from one and other.
Yeah I know that. :) What I'm getting at is the peak bass levels. How does Interstellar's peak bass moment compare to Live, Die, and Repeat. The first time I heard that track, I almost jumped out of my chair for fright until I realized it was the sub hitting hard.
 
afterlife2

afterlife2

Audioholic Warlord
Yeah I know that. :) What I'm getting at is the peak bass levels. How does Interstellar's peak bass moment compare to Live, Die, and Repeat. The first time I heard that track, I almost jumped out of my chair for fright until I realized it was the sub hitting hard.
Leave him alone he is making a video. :p
 
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andyblackcat

Audioholic General
Yeah I know that. :) What I'm getting at is the peak bass levels. How does Interstellar's peak bass moment compare to Live, Die, and Repeat. The first time I heard that track, I almost jumped out of my chair for fright until I realized it was the sub hitting hard.
"Live Die Repeat" The highest levels (opening) on the Sony SDDS are centre and SW so you should be careful with you're home cinema.

Interstellar doesn't chapter 6, launching into space has equally levels all high across the SDDS display. Same goes for chapter 9, that starts of around -60db and then as dialogue/music/sound effects steadily rise and the as scene moves on levels all increase equally.
 
AcuDefTechGuy

AcuDefTechGuy

Audioholic Jedi
How does the bass in this flick compare to that 30 second blip at the starting of "Live, Die, and Repeat" in terms of extension and loudness?
I think Edge of Tomorrow's intro is probably a little more intense, but ephemeral. :D

Interstellar is a little less intense, but perpetual. :)
 
Alex2507

Alex2507

Audioholic Slumlord
Every time 3db says something about his sub 'hitting hard' or 'pounding', I feel it's got something to do with Doug.

I had forgotten about this thread and watched this last night. My volume starts off low and I resisted the urge to crank it up during the almost silent opening. Still, in moments I was in the player menu checking the dynamic compression and making sure the mains were set to small. My subs had to be shut off before the movie ended as it's a long movie and it got past 8:00 PM.

I'm going to wait until like 11:00 AM today and let it rip. I'm thinking about dragging the real subs out there for this.
 
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