Amps recommendations

[uaeproz]

Hi all,

I'm in the market to buy 2 amps.

I'm going to active amp my front speakers. I'll be using Rane crossover. I have the setup completely in XLR

So The first amp (Tweeter amp) must be:
- outputting between 75 - 85 watt @ 8 ohms per channel
- class AB
- XLR inputs
- 2 channels
- binding posts that accepts spades

The second amp must be:
- outputting 110 - 125 watt @ 8 ohms per channel
- class AB
- XLR inputs
- 2 or 4 channels
- binding posts that accepts spades

The Drivers:
The tweeter is 80w @ 8 ohm and can't exceed it when active amping
The mid is 120w @ 8 ohm
The woofer is 125w @ 8 ohm


I've been looking around and found few. But I wanna explore more options.

So, if you know an amp that meets the criteria, please let me know.

I would appreciate any input and thanks in advance.

 

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[AcuDefTechGuy]

I've been looking around and found few. But I wanna explore more options.

What have you found so far?

Does aesthetic matter?

They also make RCA-XLR cables if that matters. Reason for wanting all XLR?

 

[uaeproz]

What have you found so far ?

Does aesthetic matter?

I've attached the list of amps



and nope, aesthetic doesn't matter

 

[rnatalli]

I personally love Bryston amps if money is no object. That said, I wouldn't discount Emotiva and Outlaw.

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

Why limit oneself to AB class only?
I would recommend this little amp: Crown CTs4200 - http://www.crownaudio.com/cts-series.html

 

[uaeproz]

Why limit oneself to AB class only?
I would recommend this little amp: Crown CTs4200 - http://www.crownaudio.com/cts-series.html

This is digital amp right?. Is it a good fit? So what I'm gonna loose by throwing a digital amp in the mix?

 

[walter duque]

What speakers are we're talking about. Going by your list of amps you're speakers got to be in the 25k-100k+ range.

 

[uaeproz]

What speakers are we're talking about. Going by your list of amps you're speakers got to be in the 25k-100k+ range.

XTZ Divine 100.49 speakers

 

[walter duque]

I have heard about them, not that I am familiar with them (seems to me like BS company) They don't even know what's coming in on their chinese containers. It's your wattage requirements that puzzles me, my tweeters can take 500+ watts with no problem. Why the power limit?? 125 watts for a woofer is nothing. You're not talking about any power here. For the price you paid for your speakers they seem pretty weak to me in the power handling department. No insult intended. What amp are you using now? I've been playing around with bi-amping for years and I used to think there was such a great difference, well I am starting to realize I've been BS my self for years. Get one good amp and that's it. If the speakers are well designed (good crossover) I would save my money and all that trouble. Good luck..

 

[BoredSysAdmin]

This is digital amp right?. Is it a good fit? So what I'm gonna loose by throwing a digital amp in the mix?

Err, nothing really, but i guess bragging rights that you had paid 100k to buy an amp which weights half ton
Crown is a Harman brand and they care to make pure and neutral audio gear which is honest and great value.

Minor issues might include lack of 12v trigger on some models and unconventional connections
Imho both could be easily worked around.

 

[Steve81]

I have heard about them, not that I am familiar with them (seems to me like BS company)

They're a reputable brand, but they're not as well known in the US market.

It's your wattage requirements that puzzles me, my tweeters can take 500+ watts with no problem.

What tweeters are those? While I've not glanced at the specs of every tweeter on the market, I've seen very few rated for much more than 150W short term.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

It's your wattage requirements that puzzles me, my tweeters can take 500+ watts with no problem. Why the power limit?? 125 watts for a woofer is nothing.

I don't think I've seen any tweeter with a power rating over 200W.

When companies list the max power rating, it is for the entire speaker, which actually means the woofers, not the tweeters.

Keep in mind that power requirement is very different for ACTIVE speakers vs. PASSIVE.

Most of the time, that 500W of power never really goes to the drivers in most PASSIVE speakers. Otherwise, there would be a lot more blown drivers.

One example is the $65,000 Meridian DSP8000 active tower. It has amps of 150W for the tweeter, 150W for the midrange, and 150W for the woofers.

https://www.meridian-audio.com/en/collections/products/special-edition-dsp8000-digital-active-loudspeaker/47/specification/

The $14K Meridian DSP5200 active tower has 75W amp for tweeter, 75W amp for midrange, and 75W for woofer.

The $15K Linkwitz Orion active speaker has a recommend power rating of 60W-180W for tweeter, midrange, and woofers.

The Seaton Catalyst active high-efficiency loudspeaker is made for extreme deafening SPL, yet the tweeter only gets 150W amp as well.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Most 75W-125W amps I've seen are usually not balanced, though. So the requirement for XLR connectors makes it tough for sure. Even if they have XLR connectors, most of these amps are still not fully balanced anyway.

 

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A quick look at some of the world's top tweeters revealed none had power handling short term greater than 200w, including the seas excel diamond and the scan speak revelator berrillyum.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Yeah, here is a pair of $6,500 Seas Diamond tweeters with a short-term power rating of 150W:

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/diamond-dome-tweeters/seas-excel-t29d001-diamond-dome-tweeter-matched-pair/

Here is a pair of $1,000 Seas Beryllium tweeters with a short-term power rating of 200W:

https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/beryllium-dome-tweeters/seas-excel-t29b001-beryllium-dome-tweeter-e0058/

 

[walter duque]

I had my last center bi-amped with 500 watts@4 ohms (center was rated at 220 watts). Well it did have 3 tweeters not 1. My modular towers I have passive bi-amped (that's how they where designed) the top modules do also have 2 mids and 1 tweeter. And as some of you know I abuse my speakers and amps. Active bi-amping might be a different story like ADTG states. It's been a while since I did some active bi-amping.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

I had my last center bi-amped with 500 watts@4 ohms (center was rated at 220 watts). Well it did have 3 tweeters not 1. My modular towers I have passive bi-amped (that's how they where designed) the top modules do also have 2 mids and 1 tweeter. And as some of you know I abuse my speakers and amps. Active bi-amping might be a different story like ADTG states. It's been a while since I did some active bi-amping.

Yup, huge difference between active vs passive systems in terms of recommending power amps.

I think the fact that the Meridian DSP8000 & extremely loud Seaton Catalyst active speakers only use 150W for the tweeter/HF driver says a lot.

 

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I had my last center bi-amped with 500 watts@4 ohms (center was rated at 220 watts). Well it did have 3 tweeters not 1. My modular towers I have passive bi-amped (that's how they where designed) the top modules do also have 2 mids and 1 tweeter. And as some of you know I abuse my speakers and amps. Active bi-amping might be a different story like ADTG states. It's been a while since I did some active bi-amping.

Most passive crossovers have a resistor or lpad to limit the power to the tweeter.

 

[AcuDefTechGuy]

Most passive crossovers have a resistor or lpad to limit the power to the tweeter.

I think the take-away message is that using 500W of amp to power the center speaker may be wasting a lot of amp.